Got a situation I was in and thought I would share it and see what other players would have done. Here is the situation:

In a rebuy tourney on Paradise. Down to 12 players....6 players on my table. I am sitting in 8 place with 31K plus chips. I get dealt AK offsuit, 2 positions behind the button. Blinds are 2K & 4K. I raise to 12K, the guy on the button goes all in for 14K and the small blind, who has 42K raises to 22K....it will now cost me another 10K to call. What I was thinking is I have two choices, to either fold or go all in. First place in the tourney was paying $908.00 while 10th was paying 49.00. My question is what would some of you players have done? Just curious to see if I made the right call....thanks for sharing.

Here is what happened. Seeing that I was down to 18K after the antes and my raise, I thought for a long time before deciding to go all in. Of course I got called by the original re-raiser. This is the hand history:

Game #851568938 - Tournament Starfish R&A - 2,000/4,000 No Limit Texas
Hold'em - 2005/06/04-06:57:43.2 (CST)
Table "Starfish R&A 12" (MTT) -- Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Keoki (31,164 in chips)
Seat 3: daruckus (118,058 in chips)
Seat 4: totboy (14,974 in chips)
Seat 7: Fat Boy Fat (46,610 in chips)
Seat 8: PlushShows (47,874 in chips)
Seat 9: Endangered (39,678 in chips)
daruckus: Ante (200)
totboy : Ante (200)
Fat Boy Fat: Ante (200)
PlushShows: Ante (200)
Endangered: Ante (200)
Keoki : Ante (200)
Fat Boy Fat: Post Small Blind (2,000)
PlushShows: Post Big Blind (4,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to Keoki [ Ah ]
Dealt to Keoki [ Ks ]
Endangered: Fold
Keoki : Raise (12,000)
daruckus: Fold
totboy : Raise All-in (14,774)
Fat Boy Fat: Raise (20,774)
PlushShows: Fold
Keoki : Raise (18,964)
Fat Boy Fat: Call (8,190)
LT the great said, "gl keo"
*** FLOP *** : [ 2s 6d 9c ]
LT the great said, "gl"
aznxbandit said, "gl keo"
*** TURN *** : [ 2s 6d 9c ] [ Td ]
*** RIVER *** : [ 2s 6d 9c Td ] [ 5h ]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: 49,522 | Side pot 1: 32,380 | Board: [ 2s 6d 9c Td 5h ]
Keoki lost 31,164 (showed hand) [ Ah Ks ] (high card ace)
daruckus lost 200 (folded)
totboy lost 14,974 (showed hand) [ 9d Kd ] (a pair of nines)
Fat Boy Fat bet 31,164, collected 81,902, net +50,738 (showed hand) [
Qs Qc ] (a pair of queens)
PlushShows lost 4,200 (folded)
Endangered lost 200 (folded)

I ended finishing 11th in the tourney which paid a measly $39.00 bucks. In that situation I was going for the win. I could have folded and still had 18K left and made the final table. Hinsight tells me I should have folded and that was the first thing that came to mind after the re-raise, especially with a guy already all in behind the re-raiser. But I was just curious on how some of the poker players on here would play my hand in that situation. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and experience. See you all on the tables....

Aloha.....Keoki

with blinds 2k and 4k you should have gone all in yourself with only 7 1/2zx the big blind. Especially with a hand like Ace King which would appreciate the need to see all 5 cards.

Given that you did in fact only raise 12k, when it is put back to you the decision is simple...You basically are being asked to risk another 18964 to win 63000 giving uou well more than 3-1 odds. Even if the raiser exposed his cards and they happened to be KK it would stil be a mathmatical call. Given the short stacks relative to the blinds, he doesnt have to have anything nearly as good as that, so in my opinion your move is trivially easy from a tactical standpoint.

Additionallyy, leaving your self with only 18k when there is an average of 7200 in the pot preflop is simply bad form a strategic perspective, as you have conceded most of your fold equity, that is, your ability to make big stacks fold to you if you raise.

In my opinion though you put yourself in this position by not going allin preflop which i think would have been better. It wouldnt have mattered because I doubt the QQ would have folded, but you may have gotten 99, 88,,77 etc to fold wheere for a small raise you are almost a sure thing to be repopped.

Just My OPinion

sheets

Codewizard, he was right, he had two overs. His hand was good for all the purposes that matter, of course he knew at least one player had a pair, but that doesn't make AK "no good," the only relevant question is whether someone has AA or KK, if you believe there is still not much equity in folding, but I can see your argument having some merit. People who fold off all of their chips instead of taking chances with two overcards in a huge pot don't win tourneys either.

There will be no more posts regarding the crew on this site. It generated way too much hatred toward me and the poeple involved and its just not worth it. If you would like to see more information on them, Rolling stone magazine just published a full spread with perhaps the worst written taken out of context bs account of some of the crew's episodes. It is on their online site as well.

If and when my piece gets written and published I will take all of the abuse at once, rather than in piecemeal as it happens here. Call me thin skinned, call me sensitive, call me ishmail. Life is too short.

sheets

100% agree with sheets here. AK is not a hand that you want called here preflop given the circumstances. Thus, all-in pre is the only move I make here. That way, if you are called, you most likely still have outs, but obviously a majority of the time everyone will fold and you'll pick up the blinds (which will help your stack quite a bit). If you had anything ranging from QQ - AA...those are the milking hands that you want to throw out a small but decent raise pre flop and hope for 1 caller.

Another problem with raising AK for almost half your stack pre is that you're not in position either. So if you completely miss the flop, and you have to act first, you either check (essentially showing your weakness), or go all-in and pray that he missed too.

I dont even know what the discussion is all about. In my mind there is no decision. All in. You have a chance to triple up and take control of a tourny with a hand liek AK. You are scared of only two hands which the likely hood of someone holding is very small since you had an ace and a king in hand. so at worst you are 50% to get to the final table with a great position.

And there is no use talking about if you should have been all in preflop or not. You have to make decisions based on the current situation. The dumbest thing would be to fold because you didn't push preflop like you were supposed to.

Keoki... ill give you the best answer.. one that I stole from Phil Hellmuth's book.

GO for the big money! Top 1-2-3 is where the real cash is! Is that $39.00 going to change your life or even your online bankroll? NO! And A-K is about the best hand you will probably see the rest of the tourney anyways unless you lasted till the very end. You were a 76% when all the money went into the middle, you can't ask for a better situation. Don't 2nd guess this decision, it was the right thing no matter what anyone else says. Not because I said it, because 9 time world champion Phil Hellmuth says so!

76%? where do u come up with that

U are right why even respond, he knows better Ak vs 72 isn't even 76%

Keoki, I am by no means a great player so I will just say welcome to the site, and it's about time you got here. C-ya at the tables.

clizzark