Hi...

I've been playing almost seven years now...never had a losing year (a miracle because I'm not a great cash game player, especially limit -- NL I'm decent).

I'm not a pro nor do I care to be one. I have plenty to do to make a living and I've always looked at poker as a nice, little, profitable hobby.

The first 3-4 years, I did quite well for this "hobby". Then, the UIGEA came and figuring it would be tougher to get $$ in and out, I wanted to preserve what I had. So, I started reading bankroll management articles. I did the prudent thing, dropped down in limits and MTT buy-ins, and tried to "manage my bankroll", as they say.

Well, since then I've still made a profit but a very small one, comparatively speaking. I've conditioned myself to stay in the low games and play the cheap tournaments ($5, $10, $20 mostly) even though I had some scores in the bigger ones. All in the name of bankroll management.

All this has done is made poker boring and no more fun for me. And, I actually think dropping down in limits has harmed my game because I do stupid stuff, knowing that it's "only" $25 instead of $100-$200 I used to play.

So, I'm either gonna quit or say screw it for the bankroll. I'm not a pro, so I can reload if needed.

THis is mostly a vent, so if you comment, great, and if not, that's fine too. Only one question: Do some of you non-pros go through the same rut or am I just missing somethng here?

Thanks,
Jason

Yeah I know the players have gotten better -- the $25 buy-in compared to $100-200 was for cash games, not tournaments. But for tournaments I've played the cheapo ones too, only because I didn't "physically" have the $$ on the sites.

It's funny...I can take $800 to a poker trip no problem...but when I see that I have $500-$700 online I have been playing the cheapo tournaments, all in the name of "bankroll management" -- and I've even cashed out for over $3K over the past 12 months.

So, maybe I should just take a shot at some bigger ones and if I lose, oh well....I'll still be even for 2010.

start playing sattys

 

Originally Posted by sportsfntc

Hi...

I've been playing almost seven years now...never had a losing year (a miracle because I'm not a great cash game player, especially limit -- NL I'm decent).

I'm not a pro nor do I care to be one. I have plenty to do to make a living and I've always looked at poker as a nice, little, profitable hobby.

The first 3-4 years, I did quite well for this "hobby". Then, the UIGEA came and figuring it would be tougher to get $$ in and out, I wanted to preserve what I had. So, I started reading bankroll management articles. I did the prudent thing, dropped down in limits and MTT buy-ins, and tried to "manage my bankroll", as they say.

Well, since then I've still made a profit but a very small one, comparatively speaking. I've conditioned myself to stay in the low games and play the cheap tournaments ($5, $10, $20 mostly) even though I had some scores in the bigger ones. All in the name of bankroll management.

All this has done is made poker boring and no more fun for me. And, I actually think dropping down in limits has harmed my game because I do stupid stuff, knowing that it's "only" $25 instead of $100-$200 I used to play.

So, I'm either gonna quit or say screw it for the bankroll. I'm not a pro, so I can reload if needed.

THis is mostly a vent, so if you comment, great, and if not, that's fine too. Only one question: Do some of you non-pros go through the same rut or am I just missing somethng here?

Thanks,
Jason

ur vent is a lot like my vent. I'm on my 7th year as a pro, used to rape, obv poker was easy in 2006 for example but i cleaned up then, now my accounts r low and i don't win shit anymore for last few months atleast. And over the years my ABI has went way down. im a lifetime winner at $220 SNG but yet somehow I cant beat the $22's anymore, its kinna f'd up really. It'll turn around i hope but if not on to the next on. hopefully it turns around for u. once FTP unrigs my account I should be able to win again tho. ppl c my hole cards

From the scores i've seen I wouldn't bump up ur buy in in the MTT's unless you have no problem redepositing several times.....as far cash goes you should probly have X amount of buy ins, since i dont play cash I wouldnt know what X is.

Fuck it man, play higher! If this is supposed to be a hobby and you're not enjoying it, you're doing something wrong. Play at whatever level makes you happy and if you make money, great! If you don't, well at least you're having fun right?

 

Originally Posted by wes_mc

Fuck it man, play higher! If this is supposed to be a hobby and you're not enjoying it, you're doing something wrong. Play at whatever level makes you happy and if you make money, great! If you don't, well at least you're having fun right?

This.

If it's a hobby treat it as such. And yes I have suffered similar in a way to what you post about. I am just thankful I have the euro sites to go to when confidence is low. To keep the interest I stay within brm but often have one stab a night. Problem then being is that I tend to play poker on this table and auto robot all others. On plus side I ftd the stab games twice in last few weeks.

I see nothing wrong with the recreational player not following BR management. Not everyone has the patience to grind micros. If you want to jump right into 2/4 NL or $100 mtts go for it. Chances are you'll go broke much quicker but if you're doing this for fun and have the money to do so, who cares? It's good for the games and its more fun for you. Win win.

Wish I had some solid advice for you, but unfortunately I am in the group that "used" to win and now just get killed every time I sit in front of the computer. Variance is a mo-fo! Or maybe I just suck and am falling behind the bar, either way I no longer enjoy playing this game you call poker much either.

I love poker. I deposit say $500 and play tournies from 11 r to 100 fo whichever I fancy. It's a hobby, I couldn't play $2 tournies, don't interest me. If I need to re-load fir my next session I do so