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daily 50 grand..wats ur play?

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  1. David Ivers David Ivers is offline

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    Jun 20th, 2008 (6/20/2008 5:36pm)

    pokerstars Game #<span id="lw_1213997380_3">18268041629</span>: Tournament #92030264, $50+$5 Hold'em No
    Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2008/06/20 - 17:22:21 (ET)
    Table '92030264 23' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: Hoffmann25 (15975 in chips)
    Seat 2: grandblue (26653 in chips)
    Seat 3: SriverL (12120 in chips)
    Seat 4: bigtime7 (11750 in chips)
    Seat 5: My Brim Low (21331 in chips)
    Seat 6: Mister MN (20427 in chips)
    Seat 7: Pe-T (5605 in chips)
    Seat 8: shmule1 (20029 in chips)
    Seat 9: DaddyFatStax (16345 in chips)
    Hoffmann25: posts the ante 50
    grandblue: posts the ante 50
    SriverL: posts the ante 50
    bigtime7: posts the ante 50
    My Brim Low: posts the ante 50
    Mister MN: posts the ante 50
    Pe-T: posts the ante 50
    shmule1: posts the ante 50
    DaddyFatStax: posts the ante 50
    DaddyFatStax: posts small blind 200
    Hoffmann25: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to My Brim Low [8c Kc]
    grandblue: folds
    SriverL: folds
    bigtime7: folds
    My Brim Low: calls 400
    Mister MN: folds
    Pe-T: folds
    shmule1: calls 400
    DaddyFatStax: calls 200
    Hoffmann25: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Tc 9d 3c]
    DaddyFatStax: bets 1100
    Hoffmann25: raises 2900 to 4000
    My Brim Low: ???
  2. ComebackShane ComebackShane is offline

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    Jun 20th, 2008 (6/20/2008 5:44pm) in reply to David Ivers

    Fold pre?

    As played, I'd say fold. You're only in this pot for 400, do you really want to call and suck yourself into a big pot where the CO, SB or BB could have anything?
  3. rexmundi1337 rexmundi1337 is offline

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    Jun 20th, 2008 (6/20/2008 5:44pm) in reply to David Ivers

    i fold or raise pre. as played, i fold the flop, unless you want to gamble.
  4. eatyourstack eatyourstack is offline

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    Jun 20th, 2008 (6/20/2008 5:46pm) in reply to David Ivers

    Kc8c? fold pre
     
  5. hawgfarmer hawgfarmer is offline

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    Jun 20th, 2008 (6/20/2008 5:47pm) in reply to David Ivers

    first off plzzz fold pre flop. its this type of hand that gets you into too much trouble when flops like this come. as played imo i snap fold your drawing to the second nut flush...do u really wanna be calling off 1/5th of your stack on a draw with a bet and raise in front of you? not me.
  6. bthsidesnow bthsidesnow is offline

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    Jun 20th, 2008 (6/20/2008 5:48pm) in reply to David Ivers

    definitely have to agree that open limping there is awful.. as played, just let it go..
     
  7. David Ivers David Ivers is offline

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    Jun 20th, 2008 (6/20/2008 6:12pm) in reply to David Ivers

    for everyone that responded. i usually do raise there with my stack but as learned i like to pick spots that i usually raise with and just limp, it messes around with people and its hard for them to put u on hands but yea i could of folded pre and on the flop but i decided to pick that spot to accumualte a huge stack and im suffering from it :(

    but heres wat happened......

    pokerstars Game #<span id="lw_1213997380_3">18268041629</span>: Tournament #92030264, $50+$5 Hold'em No
    Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2008/06/20 - 17:22:21 (ET)
    Table '92030264 23' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: Hoffmann25 (15975 in chips)
    Seat 2: grandblue (26653 in chips)
    Seat 3: SriverL (12120 in chips)
    Seat 4: bigtime7 (11750 in chips)
    Seat 5: My Brim Low (21331 in chips)
    Seat 6: Mister MN (20427 in chips)
    Seat 7: Pe-T (5605 in chips)
    Seat 8: shmule1 (20029 in chips)
    Seat 9: DaddyFatStax (16345 in chips)
    Hoffmann25: posts the ante 50
    grandblue: posts the ante 50
    SriverL: posts the ante 50
    bigtime7: posts the ante 50
    My Brim Low: posts the ante 50
    Mister MN: posts the ante 50
    Pe-T: posts the ante 50
    shmule1: posts the ante 50
    DaddyFatStax: posts the ante 50
    DaddyFatStax: posts small blind 200
    Hoffmann25: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to My Brim Low [8c Kc]
    grandblue: folds
    SriverL: folds
    bigtime7: folds
    My Brim Low: calls 400
    Mister MN: folds
    Pe-T: folds
    shmule1: calls 400
    DaddyFatStax: calls 200
    Hoffmann25: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Tc 9d 3c]
    DaddyFatStax: bets 1100
    Hoffmann25: raises 2900 to 4000
    My Brim Low: raises 16881 to 20881 and is all-in
    shmule1: calls 19579 and is all-in
    DaddyFatStax: folds
    Hoffmann25: folds
    Uncalled bet (1302) returned to My Brim Low
    *** TURN *** [Tc 9d 3c] [2h]
    *** RIVER *** [Tc 9d 3c 2h] [Ah]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    My Brim Low: shows [8c Kc] (high card Ace)
    shmule1: shows [3h 3d] (three of a kind, Threes)
    shmule1 collected 46308 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 46308 | Rake 0
    Board [Tc 9d 3c 2h Ah]
    Seat 1: Hoffmann25 (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 2: grandblue folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: SriverL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: bigtime7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: My Brim Low showed [8c Kc] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 6: Mister MN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Pe-T folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: shmule1 (button) showed [3h 3d] and won (46308) with three of a
    kind, Threes
    Seat 9: DaddyFatStax (small blind) folded on the Flop

    gg me :(
    Thread Starter
  8. PlusToTheEV PlusToTheEV is offline

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    Jun 20th, 2008 (6/20/2008 6:30pm) in reply to David Ivers

    f imo, you have FE but im not jamming since i think one of the two has 2p+ and is calling (mb pair and draw too).

    why the limp though? in a raised pot i think its an easier decision to be the aggressor
     
  9. therickbol therickbol is offline

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    Jun 20th, 2008 (6/20/2008 6:34pm) in reply to David Ivers

    Yeah, looks like you fell into the trap of making bad preflop limp just because your cards were sooooted. Fold preflop. And if you are at a passive table and want to play the hand because it folded to you then raise with it and proceed and represent a real hand.
  10. PlusToTheEV PlusToTheEV is offline

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    Jun 20th, 2008 (6/20/2008 10:15pm) in reply to therickbol

    na he's limping for diff reasons than just liking his cards, but i'd recommend being cutoff/button for doing this more because i think it sets off more alarms than mp to hijak.
     
  11. lowdog lowdog is offline

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    Jun 21st, 2008 (6/21/2008 1:54am) in reply to David Ivers

    I see 3 mistakes. First you have 50 times the blind, this tourney is very early. From your spot you need 99, 88. AQ. AJs minimum. K8s is trash and will just get you in trouble.

    Second if you are first in the pot RAISE, Period, end of item.

    Last, an AI push against 3 players on a flush draw is asking for real trouble. Did you expect the bettor and the raiser to fold???

    Heads up is OK if the pot is at least half your stack. With 3 other players, 2 who raised in front of you, someone is gonna have something they like and you are only a 33% change too flush here.

    Tighten up. At 200/400 the game is just getting started. Gambling like that will get you busted fast.
  12. pavlo1998 pavlo1998 is offline

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    Jun 21st, 2008 (6/21/2008 11:07am) in reply to David Ivers

    Pretty easy fold ...the 4k raise took the play away from you. Now you cant do much more than fold. Call is the worst option of all. Raise is also pretty bad because both of them basically told you they got TP+ so not a tough fold at all
  13. Tigersmith Tigersmith is offline

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    Jun 21st, 2008 (6/21/2008 1:24pm) in reply to David Ivers

    How are you playing in a 55 buy in if u limp hands like these, If you are going to play this hand correctly you should be raising preflop if you really like K8 Suited. instant fold after flop hits.
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