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I'm playing in the Daily Fifteen Grand, and the fourth hand in I pick up KK in an ugly spot. I don't normally play in this tournament so I am unsure of what kind of level of play to expect but I was very confused about how this hand played out so decided to throw it away and move on. What would be your play here? What is your take on this situation and what type of hands should I assign to the villian and why? Thanks in advance and Happy Holidays!
pokerstars Game #14091636638: Tournament #71192061, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/12/25 - 14:08:12 (ET)
Table '71192061 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: btoben (1470 in chips)
Seat 2: Laranlatro (1350 in chips)
Seat 3: JacksKing (1460 in chips)
Seat 4: sct123 (1730 in chips)
Seat 5: Larz82 (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: samy78 (1500 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: brado_77 (1460 in chips)
Seat 8: lucky2308 (1690 in chips)
Seat 9: whiteeeee (1370 in chips)
JacksKing: posts small blind 10
sct123: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sct123 [Kh Kc]
Larz82: calls 20
samy78: folds
brado_77: calls 20
lucky2308: folds
samy78 has returned
whiteeeee: folds
btoben: calls 20
Laranlatro: folds
JacksKing: folds
sct123: raises 80 to 100
Larz82: calls 80
brado_77: calls 80
btoben: folds
*** FLOP *** [Td 8d Ac]
sct123: bets 200
Larz82: calls 200
brado_77: folds
*** TURN *** [Td 8d Ac] [Jd]
brado_77 is sitting out
sct123: checks
Larz82: bets 340
sct123: folds
Larz82 collected 730 from pot
Larz82: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 730 | Rake 0
Board [Td 8d Ac Jd]
Seat 1: btoben folded before Flop
Seat 2: Laranlatro (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JacksKing (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: sct123 (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: Larz82 collected (730)
Seat 6: samy78 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: brado_77 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: lucky2308 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: whiteeeee folded before Flop (didn't bet) -
in general, though you need to switch it up sometimes so your oppenents cannot put you on a mid range hand, making a continuation bet in this spot is a huge leak. By betting with KK on an A hi board you are forcing stronger hands to call or raise you while getting hands you have crushed to fold. Rather than continiution bet check calling a weak bet is preferable. In this spot because you are against two opponents check folding is the best line. But if you are up against on player checking and then calling a bet on the turn (if one is not made ont he flop) is definetly preferable.
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The only way I can win the pot right there though is by betting them out and getting them to fold. If I am beat then the bet on the flop followed by the quick call lets me know. I think check/calling or check/folding while might be smarter, it is also a leak because then I don't know where I am at. Also, I think if I don't lead out I am just letting hands that don't already beat me catch a free card and draw out on me.
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Smok, while I agree with you some of the times its just not right to c-bet however with 2 other opponents in the hand I felt because I showed strength preflop I had to fire out on the flop and see what happened from there. I think not betting the flop is -ev seeing that if someone doesn't already have an ace, that they might actually be trailing on a flush or straight draw and checking gives them the opportunity to catch.
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