Deep 3.30r -- Tough Spot

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  1. Esarbe Esarbe is offline

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    Oct 13th, 2009 (10/13/2009 11:22am)

    So i'm deep in the 3.30r but i'm sitting in class so i'm not able to have much info/reads on anyone plus i've gotten moved like 3 times in the last 10 mins. So no reads.

    <span>PokerStars Game #33961282899: Tournament #203040511, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVI (10000/20000) - 2009/10/12 19:34:16 ET
    Table '203040511 553' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: pokersnake01 (522622 in chips)
    Seat 2: elpida2008 (283769 in chips)
    Seat 3: Playa_UK (361963 in chips)
    Seat 4: iMuStBgOd (286616 in chips)
    Seat 5: Guess97232 (395487 in chips)
    Seat 6: IamMARVIN (461830 in chips)
    Seat 7: alexbocboc55 (175471 in chips)
    Seat 8: Skiller77 (955505 in chips)
    Seat 9: misterpeanut (312734 in chips)
    pokersnake01: posts the ante 2000
    elpida2008: posts the ante 2000
    Playa_UK: posts the ante 2000
    iMuStBgOd: posts the ante 2000
    Guess97232: posts the ante 2000
    IamMARVIN: posts the ante 2000
    alexbocboc55: posts the ante 2000
    Skiller77: posts the ante 2000
    misterpeanut: posts the ante 2000
    Guess97232: posts small blind 10000
    IamMARVIN: posts big blind 20000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to iMuStBgOd [Jd Th]
    alexbocboc55: folds
    Skiller77: folds
    misterpeanut: calls 20000
    pokersnake01: folds
    elpida2008: folds
    Playa_UK: calls 20000
    iMuStBgOd: calls 20000
    Guess97232: calls 10000
    IamMARVIN: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Td 4s 3d]
    Guess97232: checks
    IamMARVIN: checks
    misterpeanut: bets 60000
    Playa_UK: folds
    </span>
    <span>iMuStBgOd: ??????????</span>

    I'm either shove/fold here. It's the 3.30r and i'm playing to win so i'm not afraid to just get it all in, plus i have <15 BBs so flatting isn't much of an option. 4 to the flop I feel like top pair J kicker isn't the greatest spot to get it in, but at the same time I think I'm stacking up fine against his range here.*

    What's your move?
  2. nollidK nollidK is offline

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    Oct 13th, 2009 (10/13/2009 11:27am) in reply to Esarbe

    don't limp
     
  3. GlitznGlamor GlitznGlamor is offline

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    Oct 13th, 2009 (10/13/2009 11:32am) in reply to Esarbe

    Not sure what you were looking for in this spot to make this a profitable play at all...personally I fold pre or I am raising to get all the dead money out and show strength...I really dont understand playing this deep in a very profitable tourney unless u flop 2 pair or the straight playing j10 with 2 limpers in b4 you and 2 to act behind you is a looooooosing play....as played( I cant say that) just fold...you ahev no clue of where you are here
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    Oct 13th, 2009 (10/13/2009 11:46am) in reply to GlitznGlamor

     
    Originally Posted by GlitznGlamor View Post

    Not sure what you were looking for in this spot to make this a profitable play at all...personally I fold pre or I am raising to get all the dead money out and show strength...I really dont understand playing this deep in a very profitable tourney unless u flop 2 pair or the straight playing j10 with 2 limpers in b4 you and 2 to act behind you is a looooooosing play....as played( I cant*say that) just fold...you ahev no clue of where you are here

    My thinking was that I was in position with 10 J and it's 20k to call to win 100k in the pot already. Thought it was a good spot to see a flop with 10 J.*

    Looking at it now you're right, I should have played it differently pre. But as played, do people fold or shove here?
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  5. GlitznGlamor GlitznGlamor is offline

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    Oct 13th, 2009 (10/13/2009 11:49am) in reply to Esarbe

    fold all day....def can find a better spot
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    Oct 13th, 2009 (10/13/2009 11:54am) in reply to nollidK

     
    Originally Posted by nollidK View Post

    don't limp

    You only have 14bbs. Even on the button, limping behind is bad; it's way to speculative with your push/fold stack.
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    Oct 13th, 2009 (10/13/2009 11:56am) in reply to Esarbe

    Fold. Top pair J kicker in a 5 way pot is not what you want. As played, he could have limped a monster from early position (I see this a lot in this tourney, especially deep) and he could easily have a set or flush draw with 2 overs. Either way at best you're likely slightly ahead right now, at worst you're already crushed.
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    Oct 13th, 2009 (10/13/2009 2:37pm) in reply to winkie23

    *Yeah you're right. As played I shoved and he called with KK.

    Thanks for the input though guys, this definitely helps.*
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  9. MastaP89 MastaP89 is offline

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    Oct 13th, 2009 (10/13/2009 4:48pm) in reply to Esarbe

    i prolly shove pre
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  10. nezbit nezbit is offline

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    Oct 13th, 2009 (10/13/2009 6:02pm) in reply to nollidK

    sick brag about being a student who is a slacker

    dont limp with JT and if u do fold unless u flop a monster
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