pokerstars Game #31139540224: Tournament #181768083, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXV (15000/30000) - 2009/08/01 19:25:53 CT [2009/08/01 20:25:53 ET]
Table '181768083 467' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: ob1knb (1346896 in chips)
Seat 3: oscarbravo (2185226 in chips)
Seat 4: Pryme72 (1099051 in chips)
Seat 5: rboyanap (191927 in chips)
Seat 6: hugoborin18 (741892 in chips)
Seat 7: DNCBRE (211926 in chips)
Seat 8: steve110 (18139 in chips)
Seat 9: tazzy393 (1273855 in chips)
ob1knb: posts the ante 3750
oscarbravo: posts the ante 3750
Pryme72: posts the ante 3750
rboyanap: posts the ante 3750
hugoborin18: posts the ante 3750
DNCBRE: posts the ante 3750
steve110: posts the ante 3750
tazzy393: posts the ante 3750
rboyanap: posts small blind 15000
hugoborin18: posts big blind 30000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pryme72 [Kh Ah]
DNCBRE: folds
steve110: calls 14389 and is all-in
tazzy393: calls 30000
ob1knb: raises 1313146 to 1343146 and is all-in
oscarbravo: folds
Pryme72:???

55 players left. 10.5k for first.

I just moved to this table so no reads. Do we call everytime? Or should we just continue to abuse shorter stacks and slowly move towards the FT? Keep in mind the BB is only 30k and I have about 1 million. Villain is also technically in a steal spot.

EDIT: Results now posted on page 2.

 

Originally Posted by I_Blade_U

3r... i call

 

Originally Posted by I_Blade_U

3r... i call

Stuff like this just screams like pockets sixes or AJ. I'd most likely call without some sort of read.

Before posting results; does anybody argue that it isn't worth risking such a large stack on what most of the time will be a coinflip? Especially if we feel we have a skill advantage over most of the field?

Option 1:

Call. If we win we are one of the chip leaders and will more than likely secure a top 3 spot. But if we lose we are out with a gay payday when we had such a nice stack to continue playing postflop poker.

Option 2:

Fold AK SUITED preflop! This is playing a little safer because of the substantial money on the line. You get to continue playing a little postflop poker and pwning noobs gradually.

 

Originally Posted by Pryme72

Before posting results; does anybody argue that it isn't worth risking such a large stack on what most of the time will be a coinflip? Especially if we feel we have a skill advantage over most of the field?

Option 1:

Call. If we win we are one of the chip leaders and will more than likely secure a top 3 spot. But if we lose we are out with a gay payday when we had such a nice stack to continue playing postflop poker.

Option 2:

Fold AK SUITED preflop! This is playing a little safer because of the substantial money on the line. You get to continue playing a little postflop poker and pwning noobs gradually.

sfobv u called and lost to 22.

I was leaning towards folding with the idea that really you don't want to race here.

For those who said call, can we get some ranges? What % of the time does this guy need to have pockets to make it a fold? (assuming if you could see his hand and it was pockets you would fold)

Pockets 80-85% of the time would be my cutoff. Rather keep my million chips and keep playing.

Some/all of those who said call are better than me so I'd like to hear more.

I'm leaning towards a fold. I know the structure has gotten pretty quick recently in the 3r now that they have 10 minute levels, but in my experiences late in the 3r there are a number of players that are ripe for the picking that can really be taken advantage of.

Sure this is a great spot to chip up, but you're likely racing or a fair amount of the time crushed. There is a small chance he has AJ or KQ or something, but I think its very very slight.

Also, there is no way in hell you lock up a top 3 finish with 55 players left by winning this hand.

fwiw, i've finished in the top 20 of the 3r 7 times with 3 wins.

I'll go ahead and post results for those interested.

When in that spot my instincts told me to make the call. I play to win outright everytime and I knew winning this pot would bring me so much closer to that goal. However, the result had me trippin' a little bit.

Dealt to Pryme72 [Kh Ah]
DNCBRE: folds
steve110: calls 14389 and is all-in
tazzy393: calls 30000
ob1knb: raises 1313146 to 1343146 and is all-in
oscarbravo: folds
Pryme72: calls 1095301 and is all-in
rboyanap: folds
hugoborin18: folds
tazzy393: folds
Uncalled bet (247845) returned to ob1knb
*** FLOP *** [Qh 7c 8h]
*** TURN *** [Qh 7c 8h] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [Qh 7c 8h 6d] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ob1knb: shows [9h 9d] (a straight, Five to Nine)
Pryme72: shows [Kh Ah] (high card Ace)
ob1knb collected 2193657 from side pot
steve110: shows [Js Tc] (high card Queen)
ob1knb collected 116334 from main pot

As usual, Chad Batista with the spot-on advice. In hindsight I think I should've folded.

lol at anyone folding this. This structure is terrible, these players are terrible. You have a 1M chip stack. 35bbs-ish? i can see folding for a 50bb+. If his 99 is face up I call. If I see the flop and his 99 I call (we flopped a flush draw for those of you too lazy to read the results). This partic tourney has a terrible structure, so only in this situation I think its a terrible fold.

im snap getting it in. even though it is a 3r and people sometimes overjam there aa kk, his range is just so heavilly weighted to like 88-jj and ak aq type hands i cant see folding here. especially since the structure is so fast and bad in this cant pass up this spot ever.

i cant imagine chad being serious. if this was a tourny like the wednesday 300 on stars with 20 min levels and extra levels AND we were deeper i would fold. but in this tourney we will be under 20bbs in like 10 minutes. yeah were flipping here so often but there is plenty o dead money in there and also if we win this we are STACKED and can really abuse the rest of the stacks at our table. people nit up sooooo much deep in these low buy ins, if we win the flip we can straight up abuse the tournament

Well the overwhelming support for the snap call has made me feel a lot better that's for damn sure.

I didn't let the deep finish dissapoint me too much. I had a good bounce back by taking a 3rd in a 6max tourney last night.