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Deep in the Big 5, Whats the best play here?

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  1. slammy jammy slammy jammy is offline

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    Jun 22nd, 2012 (6/22/2012 4:10pm)

    pokerstars Hand #82177475106: Tournament #578010282, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXIII (4000/8000) - 2012/06/20 0:38:11 IST [2012/06/19 15:08:11 ET]
    Table '578010282 164' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: fairflop2011 (133959 in chips)
    Seat 2: EVGENIY 721 (105847 in chips)
    Seat 3: madison_dk (189010 in chips)
    Seat 4: chami1975 (404964 in chips)
    Seat 5: Analogy25 (406708 in chips)
    Seat 6: juhtro (239178 in chips)
    Seat 7: PIKJOE (427127 in chips)
    Seat 8: slammy jammy (334005 in chips)
    Seat 9: De_Bellmond (151781 in chips)
    fairflop2011: posts the ante 1000
    EVGENIY 721: posts the ante 1000
    madison_dk: posts the ante 1000
    chami1975: posts the ante 1000
    Analogy25: posts the ante 1000
    juhtro: posts the ante 1000
    PIKJOE: posts the ante 1000
    slammy jammy: posts the ante 1000
    De_Bellmond: posts the ante 1000
    De_Bellmond: posts small blind 4000
    fairflop2011: posts big blind 8000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to slammy jammy [Ts Td]
    EVGENIY 721: folds
    madison_dk: raises 29000 to 37000
    chami1975: calls 37000
    Analogy25: folds
    juhtro: folds
    PIKJOE: calls 37000
    slammy jammy:??????????
  2. BenFaz BenFaz is offline

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    Jun 22nd, 2012 (6/22/2012 4:23pm) in reply to slammy jammy

    The best play is based on the table dynamics and how madison is generally playing.. Anymore info?
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  3. bazingaking bazingaking is offline

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    Jun 22nd, 2012 (6/22/2012 4:36pm) in reply to BenFaz

    ^ Yeh, and what's up with Madison's pre-flop raise to nearly 4x the BB ? Is that standard for him? If not, I'd read that raise as strength with AA,KK etc. If we read the raise as strong, I think we have to fold. If 4BB is his standard raise, you can shove or call. Because of the size of the pre-flop raise in comparison to your stack size, you are only roughly getting the correct odds to call to set mine, and I would frequently fold but you can call here though because you are getting great pot odds, and since the pot is multi-way, you have a better chance of getting paid off when you hit your set.

    Since though, the pot is so inflated pre-flop, shoving can be very profitable and I prefer shoving to calling.

    So, if 4BB is standard raise = I like to shove here.

    If 4BB is not standard = I would fold.
  4. TheSquirrel TheSquirrel is offline

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    Jun 22nd, 2012 (6/22/2012 5:40pm) in reply to bazingaking

    It does depend on the player as others have said. In normal circumstances I don't like my TT here, and am going to fold, especially online. I rarely play online but folded JJ just recently in an MTT to an early raise, and was right to do so.
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