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Deep in MiniFtops 9....Do you call this?????

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  1. marroca5 marroca5 is offline

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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 2:47am)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #20720845219: MiniFTOPS Event #9 (147677613), Table 96 - 25000/50000 Ante 6000 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:40:20 ET - 2010/05/10
    Seat 1: wuddacooler (2,393,891)
    Seat 2: dkil (662,330)
    Seat 3: malimiki (1,056,354)
    Seat 4: MURIBE (2,733,791)
    Seat 6: Hulla00 (2,029,863)
    Seat 7: RDoz (168,767)
    Seat 8: Speedzebre (871,237)
    Seat 9: RockyBalboa69 (5,041,784)
    wuddacooler antes 6,000
    dkil antes 6,000
    malimiki antes 6,000
    MURIBE antes 6,000
    Hulla00 antes 6,000
    RDoz antes 6,000
    Speedzebre antes 6,000
    RockyBalboa69 antes 6,000
    malimiki posts the small blind of 25,000
    MURIBE posts the big blind of 50,000
    The button is in seat #2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to MURIBE [5d 5c]
    Hulla00 folds
    RDoz raises to 162,767, and is all in
    Speedzebre has 15 seconds left to act
    Speedzebre folds
    RockyBalboa69 folds
    wuddacooler folds
    dkil folds
    malimiki raises to 1,050,354, and is all in

    MURIBE????

    Should I call this?
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  2. JON STAMOZ JON STAMOZ is offline

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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 2:54am) in reply to marroca5

    I'm folding
  3. Pokerl)evil Pokerl)evil is offline

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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 3:14am) in reply to JON STAMOZ

    reads are kind of important, but pretty sure I fold as well
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  4. marroca5 marroca5 is offline

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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 4:11am) in reply to Pokerl)evil

    well, the guy that is allin is pretty irrelevant....and the guy that is shoving from the SB is not crazy at all but he is not a nit either, and I think he will be shoving with all his range except premiums maybe. I dont know, I just feel its really close between calling or folding. Any more inputs plz?
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  5. sobizzle21 sobizzle21 is offline Scammer

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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 4:14am) in reply to marroca5

    idk dont like the idea of calling 20bbs here with 55
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  6. FGEasiest FGEasiest is offline

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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 4:20am) in reply to sobizzle21

    def think you can find better spots. Youre at maximum flipping or be completely crushed..
     
  7. supra1988t supra1988t is offline

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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 4:24am) in reply to FGEasiest

    easy fold
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  8. sanzard sanzard is offline

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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 5:05am) in reply to supra1988t

    The only way you can make this call is if you include 2s-4s in their range and maybe some random aces (A 4 etc.). Even then it's close. Fold and find a better spot.
     
  9. scottydontplay scottydontplay is offline

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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 8:03am) in reply to marroca5

    Regardless of reads its an easy fold you're barely ever ahead
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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 9:59am) in reply to JON STAMOZ

    Fold. With no reads, gotta figure youre at best flipping for more than a third of your stack.
  11. el arracachero el arracachero is offline

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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 1:48pm) in reply to beorn22

     
    Originally Posted by beorn22 View Post

    Fold. With no reads, gotta figure youre at best flipping for more than a third of your stack.

    I agree, and you are the second largest stack of the table, so its not like you need to gamble here cause you are short. fold.
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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 1:52pm) in reply to marroca5

    folding here
  13. PurpLeRaZe PurpLeRaZe is offline

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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 2:04pm) in reply to el arracachero

    you want to be pushing with 5's not calling :) since they already took that option away...fold
  14. marroca5 marroca5 is offline

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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 2:50pm) in reply to PurpLeRaZe

     I know calling 20bb there doesnt look good with 55, but its virtually the same scenario as if it folded around to the SB and he shoved those 20bb, except that with the guy thats allin theres a bit more chips in the pot. 

    So you guys are basically saying that if it folds around to the SB and he shoves for 20BB we are folding 55 in the BB??? Idk it seems exploitble....

    fwiw I did fold and I think its fine, Im just not sure if calling is correct here, maybe someone can math it up a bit. tx for responses.
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  15. dangitisuck dangitisuck is offline

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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 7:34pm) in reply to marroca5

    easy fold...did he have 44?
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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 7:49pm) in reply to marroca5

     
    Originally Posted by marroca5 View Post

    I know calling 20bb there doesnt look good with 55, but its virtually the same scenario as if it folded around to the SB and he shoved those 20bb, except that with the guy thats allin theres a bit more chips in the pot.

    So you guys are basically saying that if it folds around to the SB and he shoves for 20BB we are folding 55 in the BB??? Idk it seems exploitble....

    fwiw I did fold and I think its fine, Im just not sure if calling is correct here, maybe someone can math it up a bit. tx for responses.

    They are two different scenarios. Yes there are some people who will shove just as wide, but those people are few and far between deep in miniftops. Now if you had a read that they iso with A2, T9, and such and flat with AA, AK and such then a call might be in order, but a random just isnt going to do that here.
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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 7:59pm) in reply to dangitisuck

    fold, just causing it's exploitable doesn't mean he's exploiting you
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  18. feedthemfish feedthemfish is offline

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    May 10th, 2010 (5/10/2010 10:17pm) in reply to marroca5

    I'd fold even better. wait for a better spot bro.
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