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deep stacked and semi-deep... advice plz

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  1. MoneyOr2 MoneyOr2 is offline

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    Dec 3rd, 2008 (12/3/2008 11:28pm)

    Villain is horrible...calling ATC and minraising alot. I just flatted pre to have some stack control against a player that has yet to fold.

    Good flop but not the best.

    1. Is reraise big enough?

    2. Is this an easy fold on the turn?

    thanks for the help all

    pokerstars Game #22602069371: Tournament #123490190, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (800/1600) - 2008/12/03 21:55:29 ET
    Table '123490190 19' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: ATHIED87 (38842 in chips)
    Seat 3: bigstve33 (70234 in chips)
    Seat 4: bitz38 (62126 in chips)
    Seat 5: shogun93360 (31489 in chips)
    Seat 6: MoneyOr2 (60725 in chips)
    ATHIED87: posts the ante 150
    bigstve33: posts the ante 150
    bitz38: posts the ante 150
    shogun93360: posts the ante 150
    MoneyOr2: posts the ante 150
    ATHIED87: posts small blind 800
    bigstve33: posts big blind 1600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to MoneyOr2 [6d 6c]
    bitz38: raises 1600 to 3200
    shogun93360: folds
    MoneyOr2: calls 3200
    ATHIED87: folds
    bigstve33: calls 1600
    *** FLOP *** [6h Qh Kc]
    bigstve33: checks
    bitz38: bets 6400
    MoneyOr2: raises 13595 to 19995
    bigstve33: folds
    bitz38: calls 13595
    *** TURN *** [6h Qh Kc] [Th]
    bitz38: bets 38781 and is all-in
    MoneyOr2:
  2. 3kingme3 3kingme3 is offline

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    Dec 3rd, 2008 (12/3/2008 11:29pm) in reply to MoneyOr2

    snap call
  3. MuiMuiBueno MuiMuiBueno is offline

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    Dec 3rd, 2008 (12/3/2008 11:31pm) in reply to MoneyOr2

    5handed, 3bet pre. as played think that u have to call here as he could have 2 pair type hands as well as Kx of hearts, AA, with a heart, Ax with a heart
  4. StaySuckaFree StaySuckaFree is offline

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    Dec 3rd, 2008 (12/3/2008 11:32pm) in reply to 3kingme3

     
    Originally Posted by 3kingme3 View Post

    snap call

    THIS...
  5. MoneyOr2 MoneyOr2 is offline

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    Dec 3rd, 2008 (12/3/2008 11:50pm) in reply to MoneyOr2

    okay... to those saying snap call here are results

    glad to see i wasnt too wrong.

    *** TURN *** [6h Qh Kc] [Th]
    bitz38: bets 38781 and is all-in
    MoneyOr2: calls 37380 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (1401) returned to bitz38
    *** RIVER *** [6h Qh Kc Th] [8d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    bitz38: shows [Ah Jh] (a flush, Ace high)
    MoneyOr2: shows [6d 6c] (three of a kind, Sixes)
    MoneyOr2 said, "vnh"
    bitz38 collected 125900 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 125900 | Rake 0
    Board [6h Qh Kc Th 8d]
    Seat 1: ATHIED87 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: bigstve33 (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 4: bitz38 showed [Ah Jh] and won (125900) with a flush, Ace high
    Seat 5: shogun93360 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: MoneyOr2 (button) showed [6d 6c] and lost with three of a kind, Sixes
    Thread Starter
  6. adamsapple19 adamsapple19 is offline

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    Dec 4th, 2008 (12/4/2008 12:01am) in reply to MoneyOr2

    I like a 3 bet preflop. The hand prbly plays out the same way no matter what but 5-handed at a FT its always best to take control of a pot ASAP imo.
     
  7. Gags30 Gags30 is offline

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    Dec 4th, 2008 (12/4/2008 6:43am) in reply to adamsapple19

     
    Originally Posted by adamsapple19 View Post

    I like a 3 bet preflop. The hand prbly plays out the same way no matter what but 5-handed at a FT its always best to take control of a pot ASAP imo.

    Meh, I like flatting here. I don't like 3bet/folding 66 this deep against someone that will stack off post flop if we hot a set. Ul, get the board to pair next time
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  8. TheVillageGrinder TheVillageGrinder is offline

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    Dec 4th, 2008 (12/4/2008 9:48am) in reply to Gags30

     
    Originally Posted by Gags30 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by adamsapple19 View Post

    I like a 3 bet preflop. The hand prbly plays out the same way no matter what but 5-handed at a FT its always best to take control of a pot ASAP imo.

    Meh, I like flatting here. I don't like 3bet/folding 66 this deep against someone that will stack off post flop if we hot a set. Ul, get the board to pair next time

    AGreed esp if the guy doesn't have a fold button. How the hell will you know where you are in the hand on the flop. You have to have patience against guys like this, imo. Easy said than done, i know, but its still just 66.
  9. keylow63 keylow63 is offline

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    Dec 4th, 2008 (12/4/2008 10:42am) in reply to TheVillageGrinder

     
    Originally Posted by TheVillageGrinder View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Gags30 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by adamsapple19 View Post


    I like a 3 bet preflop. The hand prbly plays out the same way no matter what but 5-handed at a FT its always best to take control of a pot ASAP imo.

    Meh, I like flatting here. I don't like 3bet/folding 66 this deep against someone that will stack off post flop if we hot a set. Ul, get the board to pair next time

    AGreed esp if the guy doesn't have a fold button. How the hell will you know where you are in the hand on the flop. You have to have patience against guys like this, imo. Easy said than done, i know, but its still just 66.

    I agree with a flat as well. Dude isnt folding to 3 bet if he plays like you say and I dont think its a strong enough hand (even 5 handed). Im calling the turn as well based on what you said about villain, and u always still have 10 outs. wp ul
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