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I'm starting to second guess my play on these two hands. I'm probably just being results oriented because I ran into aces both times but I just wanted to get some opinions.
I had no real reads on either player except that maze had been pretty tight. This hand is with about 50 people left
pokerstars Game #21909677212: Tournament #117596062, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVII (30000/60000) - 2008/11/09 23:53:28 ET
Table '117596062 408' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: King Balky (2528770 in chips)
Seat 2: Mazelucky (1036210 in chips)
Seat 3: mls2323 (1007423 in chips)
Seat 4: whatwhyhow11 (444004 in chips)
Seat 5: RunThisTable (3066977 in chips)
Seat 6: droc99999 (2623743 in chips)
Seat 8: U_Still_Here (1197650 in chips)
Seat 9: ballnhand (818228 in chips)
King Balky: posts the ante 6000
Mazelucky: posts the ante 6000
mls2323: posts the ante 6000
whatwhyhow11: posts the ante 6000
RunThisTable: posts the ante 6000
droc99999: posts the ante 6000
U_Still_Here: posts the ante 6000
ballnhand: posts the ante 6000
mls2323: posts small blind 30000
whatwhyhow11: posts big blind 60000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to King Balky [Jh Ac]
RunThisTable: folds
droc99999: folds
U_Still_Here: folds
ballnhand: folds
King Balky: raises 120000 to 180000
Mazelucky: calls 180000
mls2323: folds
whatwhyhow11: raises 258004 to 438004 and is all-in
King Balky: raises 2084766 to 2522770 and is all-in
Mazelucky: calls 850210 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1492560) returned to King Balky
*** FLOP *** [5d 5c 3c]
*** TURN *** [5d 5c 3c] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [5d 5c 3c 8d] [Js]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
King Balky: shows [Jh Ac] (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
Mazelucky: shows [Ad As] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
Mazelucky collected 1184412 from side pot
whatwhyhow11: shows [Jc Qh] (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
Mazelucky collected 1392012 from main pot
His flat on button worried me a little but I thought I could have pushed him off most hands in his range and isolate the short stack.
48 people left
PokerStars Game #21909851394: Tournament #117596062, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVIII (40000/80000) - 2008/11/10 0:03:35 ET
Table '117596062 327' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: moohaha123 (1324264 in chips)
Seat 2: King Balky (1488560 in chips)
Seat 3: foucault82 (1225219 in chips)
Seat 6: mls2323 (2504026 in chips)
Seat 7: Justin58 (676804 in chips)
Seat 8: papoorboy (546659 in chips)
Seat 9: Annna KK. (2840715 in chips)
moohaha123: posts the ante 8000
King Balky: posts the ante 8000
foucault82: posts the ante 8000
mls2323: posts the ante 8000
Justin58: posts the ante 8000
papoorboy: posts the ante 8000
Annna KK.: posts the ante 8000
Annna KK.: posts small blind 40000
moohaha123: posts big blind 80000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to King Balky [Qh Qs]
King Balky: raises 119999 to 199999
foucault82: folds
mls2323: raises 250451 to 450450
Justin58: folds
papoorboy: folds
Annna KK.: folds
moohaha123: folds
King Balky: raises 1030110 to 1480560 and is all-in
mls2323: calls 1030110
*** FLOP *** [5s 3d 6d]
King Balky said, "nh"
djLongtime [observer] said, "oh baby"
PEYTOND [observer] said, "a"
*** TURN *** [5s 3d 6d] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [5s 3d 6d 4s] [4c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
King Balky: shows [Qh Qs] (two pair, Queens and Fours)
mls2323: shows [Ah Ad] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
mls2323 collected 3137120 from pot
I quess it's worth noting that I was playing to make the FT with a healthly stack and willing to take some gambles to make it happen. That being said is there any way I could have lost less chips on either of these hands or are they both just pretty standard?
Thanks for any advice. -
u know the answer...u dont need any advice.
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i think you played both hands perfectly fine. Unless u had a good read on the flatter in the first i like the isolation raise. Folding is probably ok tho since the reship is gonna be a pretty small range (plus the flat obv can be AA/KK sometimes). Read dependent for me on the 1st def tho.
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disagree with you playing the first hand bad. after your raise and the call by maze the other dude reraises you 250k more your gettting lil under 4 to 1 to just call. You have to isolate there even though you have minimal fold equity vs maze. you played em fine
oops meant to quote optika didnt work -
2nd hand is totally standard
1st hand is somewhat icky to me and very much read dependant.
He calls off 18% of his stack pre. I just hate doing that unless I'm trapping. IDK some ppl play bad tho. If I had a read that he was loose/weak I'd prolly iso like you did.
One question: Did you know what you were gonnna do if he shoved on you pre? -
Thanks for the replies, pretty much what I expected to hear.
Village - if Maze had shoved pre I would have folded quickly, he had been pretty tight. He played the hand well. -
Norwalk CT represent
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