I was playing in the stars $11 NLHE tourney last night (9:15 PM EST start time). We were down to about 35 players and I’m UTG +2 with K10 suited. The blinds are $5k/$10k at this point and I have $70k. 2 folds to me, so I push. I get called by the guy two to my left who has about $150k. I assume I’m in trouble since it was a marginal push. He shows 9s. I catch a K on the flop and the rest of the cards are blanks. I’m up to $150k! The guy then starts ripping in to me. Calling me a lucky donk and some other things in Spanish that I don’t think are very nice. I never really responded to him, instead just letting him stew. But I thought about how the hand played out and realized he was full of crap. I was the one who pushed! He called my all-in. I realize K10 suited is a marginal hand, but I pushed hoping to steal, but also hoping if I did get called it would be a race, which it was. Now if I had simply raised to $25k and he pushed me all-in and THEN I called, I can see his beef, but that is not what happened. He lost a race, which you must realize can happen when you call with 9s. I had 2 overcards and I hit. It happens. BTW, I went on to finish 4th in the tourney, so I must be an EXTREMELY lucky donk.

So my question is, did I deserve the abuse or was this guy just out of line and tilting?

you had 7 BBs...roughly an M of what--3?

You should be shoving damn near ATC...aka he was out of line and tilting.

These are spots that I wonder about too. I mean you have 7 BBs...Do you think you will get a better hand than K10 suited in the next 4 hands? Once the blinds pass you are down to 50K and no fold equity on your all in...depending on the other stack sizes. I don't think its bad, but I'd love to hear what some more successful players say.

Shove all day while high fiving your monitor. This guy must have been playing with the last of his life savings to get so upset about nothing I guess.

I was in a sng yesterday and had just lost a pretty big pot. Blinds were 100/200 and I had like 900 chips. I was on the button with 78 suited and nobody opened. I shoved and the bb called with Q 5 and went on and on about me being a fish. Guess I'm supposed to wait for aces with 41/2 bbs left. You did nothing wrong. Take his chips and let him bitch about it.

i got berated the other day. after getting it in on 2 10 J 10, with A10, against 22 and spiking a J on the river. i then proceeded to get it all in on 10109 flop with AA vs KK for 250bb pot. K spiked turn, and the guy i previously beat went on for the rest of my duration in the tourn about how i donked away the chips i had donked from him.

People who berate are generally losing players who are frustrated by said losing

 

Originally Posted by Jmill88

I was in a sng yesterday and had just lost a pretty big pot. Blinds were 100/200 and I had like 900 chips. I was on the button with 78 suited and nobody opened. I shoved and the bb called with Q 5 and went on and on about me being a fish. Guess I'm supposed to wait for aces with 41/2 bbs left. You did nothing wrong. Take his chips and let him bitch about it.

20.5bbs is actually prolly too much to shove 78 ;)

Originally Posted by Jmill88
I was in a sng yesterday and had just lost a pretty big pot. Blinds were 100/200 and I had like 900 chips. I was on the button with 78 suited and nobody opened. I shoved and the bb called with Q 5 and went on and on about me being a fish. Guess I'm supposed to wait for aces with 41/2 bbs left. You did nothing wrong. Take his chips and let him bitch about it.

20.5bbs is actually prolly too much to shove 78 ;)

It was only 4.5 bbs. I would def not be shoving 20 bbs with 78 in a sng.

nh, wp. Don't worry about the abuse, its pretty standard imo.

Cut the caller some slack. For all we know, he could be stuck down in that cave until after Christmas.

I never get berated at the tables but yesterday it happened to me and I was laughing about it. Im in the BB.. UTG+1 limps in with less than 10 bb, folded around and I checked. I have J8.. flop comes down JJ8. I check and villian shoves and I call.. he shows J7 and I knock him out.

He ended up calling me a fucking idiot and I said, "dude, lol you limped in with J7 and you had under 10 bb and all I did was check and flopped the nuts".

Standard shove, standard ass spelunker's berration after the hand. I get called a donk/assclown before i can even sit down at the table.

Did you OPR the guy? I'd be willing to bet my roll that he's never been even semi-deep in any tourney if he's that upset about you shoving KTs w/ 7BBs and winning a race. Losing player....make a note....hope to see him soon again....

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the fact that you think that finishing 4th proves that you're not a donk shows that you're probably less clued on than you think.

 

Originally Posted by Jmill88

I was in a sng yesterday and had just lost a pretty big pot. Blinds were 100/200 and I had like 900 chips. I was on the button with 78 suited and nobody opened. I shoved and the bb called with Q 5 and went on and on about me being a fish. Guess I'm supposed to wait for aces with 41/2 bbs left. You did nothing wrong. Take his chips and let him bitch about it.

You do not deserve abuse and I think his call is marginal, depending on the stacks. I know that stack sizes have nothing to do with the equity of Q5 vs. your range, but in sngs the chips you lose are more valuable than the chips you stand to win so the bigger the blinds get (up to a point) the worse the call becomes.

That being said, I do not believe you should be shoving 78 in this spot. I would prefer you having 7.5+bb's. With only 4.5bb's, you have no FE so you're going to need more showdon value.