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Different Question re AP Situation

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  1. rashamba rashamba is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2007 (9/21/2007 5:39pm)

    I have followed the threads here and on 2+2. After what I agree is total proof of cheating and AP subsequent 'no concrete proof' reply, there were a lot of people saying they saw the accounts in question dumping chips in some weak attempt to deflect the heat. Here is my question, why? Or maybe better who? If you were just exonerated from what is obvious to everyone else, you would do exactly what I would....withdraw all funds and move on. Before someone at AP comes to their senses and freezes funds. No one is ever going to give you action there anyways, so it is time to close up shop and try some three card monty at the pier. If this were done by a typical employee, AP would seize funds, prosecute, make big announcement of their sorrow, throw a freeroll with their new security measures. It would only seem someone with close ties to AP that would cause major damage for exposing would be exempt from the obvious here. Maybe someone else has better idea.
  2. LoveHatePoker LoveHatePoker is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2007 (9/21/2007 5:42pm) in reply to rashamba

    I thought the chip dumping happened before the investigation, but I don't know for sure.
  3. alekos alekos is offline

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    Sep 21st, 2007 (9/21/2007 6:15pm) in reply to LoveHatePoker

    The chip dumping happened a little bit after the news hit the 2+2 forum and everyone found out, which is why it was so suspicious. In fact, while he was purposely losing money, 2+2ers were berating him from the rail. It seemed like an attempt to reduce his winrate so his long term statistics look less suspicious to absolute poker administration. Normally you could say he was just playing his normal game and losing money but now instead of his normal infinite river aggression he was calling bets on the river with garbage. One of the best examples was when he called the river with 4 high, i think it was the worst or 2nd worst possible hand he could have had on the board, so he was obviously dumping money.
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    Sep 22nd, 2007 (9/22/2007 12:24am) in reply to alekos

    Isn't that the behaviour you might expect from an insider who has more to lose then just money if he gets caught? In the response from AP that states there was no exploit, it mentions that the suspect accounts long term roi was not good. As if to suggest that is part of their proof no cheating was happening.

    I doubt we will ever know the whole story. I just hope AP continues the investigation and finds the issue and closes the security loophole. At first I'm sure they believed nothing was wrong, hopefully the pressure got them to take a second more serious look at it.
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