Is this a cooler or should I be playing this differently? Thanks for the advice ,
- rjm98

pokerstars Game #29367203823: Tournament #180000200, $350+$20 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/06/14 16:34:21 ET

Table '180000200 894' 9-max Seat #9 is the button

Seat 1: KingBoromir (3030 in chips)

Seat 2: redlun (2990 in chips)

Seat 3: rjm98 (3000 in chips)

Seat 4: montruo (2680 in chips)

Seat 5: fan4mizzou (3000 in chips) is sitting out

Seat 6: profontaine (2970 in chips)

Seat 7: tracer3232 (3000 in chips)

Seat 9: wasylekk (3330 in chips)

KingBoromir: posts small blind 10

redlun: posts big blind 20

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to rjm98 [As Ad]

rjm98: calls 20

fan4mizzou has returned

montruo: folds

fan4mizzou: folds

profontaine: folds

tracer3232: folds

wasylekk: raises 80 to 100

KingBoromir: folds

redlun: folds

rjm98: raises 180 to 280

wasylekk: calls 180

*** FLOP *** [8h 5c 3d]

rjm98: bets 300

wasylekk: raises 300 to 600

rjm98: raises 400 to 1000

wasylekk: calls 400

*** TURN *** [8h 5c 3d] [6s]

rjm98: bets 1720 and is all-in

wasylekk: calls 1720

*** RIVER *** [8h 5c 3d 6s] [9c]

*** SHOW DOWN ***

rjm98: shows [As Ad] (a pair of Aces)

wasylekk: shows [8c 8s] (three of a kind, Eights)

wasylekk collected 6030 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 6030 | Rake 0

Board [8h 5c 3d 6s 9c]

Seat 1: KingBoromir (small blind) folded before Flop

Seat 2: redlun (big blind) folded before Flop

Seat 3: rjm98 showed [As Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces

Seat 4: montruo folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 5: fan4mizzou folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 6: profontaine folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 7: tracer3232 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 9: wasylekk (button) showed [8c 8s] and won (6030) with three of a kind, Eights

Even if you open raised with it, it's still the 1st level and villian would have called anyways. No way out.

I might raise more pre and give serious consideration that I might be beat with the minraise post, especially since the board is not that draw heavy.

His range on the flop is probably something like QQ-KK, 33, 55, 88 and maybe 64s or JJ.

Still, in a large field donkfest like this, I don't see myself getting away, simply because you're going to run into a very bad calibur of player that is probably worse than even this middle of the road range.

Against a known thinking player/regular, I might get away here, but likely not otherwise.

u should have limp re raised more if u were gonna take that line- 100 more and he is priced in

Make it 500 then u gotta go with it

I guess I limped bc it seems like everytime i raise w AA under the gun everyone folds. I know thats a bad reason . I consider myself a recreational player . I was praying he had KK or QQ and it seems to me like the overall level of play is super aggressive online so those hands where definitely in his range as discussed above.

I feel I play aggressive and when I start having crappy results I tighten up a bit and then my game goes to crap . This game is frustrating . I guess you just have to play one style and live or die with it .

Hey OP, tough luck, but I wouldn't feel too bad about it. I wouldn't limp though, because this tourney has 5k runners which means you are almost always going to get action as there are a ton of bad players.

Someone asked if the structure is good enough to fold, and it def isn't it was just 3k starting stacks with 5k runners and you need to be top 200. You're going to have to run super well to win anyhow, so no way you can pass up that spot in a donk filled minefiled like that. Oh yeah, don't min 3bet the flop, just shove if you think you are good.

jam flop. reg for the next one.

Never limp Aces with this earlier level...get a family limp pot ...flop A23, someone holds 45s and u never get away....

And like u said, u wanted action....if i wanted action like this i prob reshove all in if i put him 99% on KK or QQ, if ur aces got cracked so be it

Or in ur situation 20 to 100...u def need to pop up to 400 atleast...dont forget u are stilll out of position if he calls u....then a cbet of 550-600 for info and still have 2k behind for a fold

Most will fold with 88/99/tt/jj here if u repop to 400+ ....or the guy is super bad then u never get away with it.....

If he did call ur 400+ pre...and this flop comes...i def not fold here

Im more worried if any J, Q, or K spike the flop...he might flop a set with a big pair
but in ur situation the 280 was very poor, ez call with middle pair here to try to hit a set

 

Originally Posted by Nole91

i'm going to be in the minority here, but I don't think stacking off an overpair on this board at 150 BBs is a cooler. Add in the fact that it's a satty format where you don't need to accumulate all the chips to win and I think it's possible to get out of this hand wounded, but not out.

This for sure. What could villain possible min raise then flat call fop here with? Not an overpair most likely... I don't know but to me that just screams set.

plz dont limp pre. usually a minraise on the flop is super strong. meh sucks . u shoulda posted without results. i doubt i get away while 12 tabling on a sunday. the thing is is that he min raised on such a dry flop and all 3 cards on the flop are in his set mining range. its probably a fold but i dont think i wouldve folded

 

Originally Posted by racer

If someone has a hand to raise with, which is actually what you want after u limp with AA, then its up to you to make them pay a much bigger price as to what you gave him to see a flop here. Having said that, being Level I, lots of people are still paying off a bigger bet to see that flop because there so deep.
Yes..tough cooler, im not getting away from it either, but i likely raise pre to about 13 BB above, either everyone folds to your given away hand or I get called then im along for the ride as well...oh well gg..gl..

You do realize he raised it to 14bbs....?

This quite honestly is by far the worst line I have ever seen someone take with AA in my entire life, the min re-raise on the turn is LOL, not trying to be rude, but dont bother posting a hand asking for opinions when you play every street awful including preflop.

when u limp reraise so small, you are playing your hand face up AND pricing your opponent in to play for a set and stack you.

make it like 350 pre and then do what you did post if ur gunna play it like u did.