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Do you go broke like I did here???????

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  1. berra008 berra008 is offline

    Woodstock, IL
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    Apr 7th, 2010 (4/7/2010 10:59pm)

    pokerstars Game #42345089572: Tournament #305010643, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIV (6000/12000) - 2010/04/07 22:39:07 ET
    Table '305010643 216' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: jarekk (735396 in chips)
    Seat 2: berra008 (503967 in chips)
    Seat 3: halva1 (294040 in chips)
    Seat 4: RudiRollig81 (198776 in chips)
    Seat 5: Bookie1978 (820052 in chips)
    Seat 6: punkhead89 (798455 in chips)
    Seat 7: matius71 (193232 in chips)
    Seat 8: mirkolai (844586 in chips)
    Seat 9: bourbonpoker (200612 in chips)
    jarekk: posts the ante 1200
    berra008: posts the ante 1200
    halva1: posts the ante 1200
    RudiRollig81: posts the ante 1200
    Bookie1978: posts the ante 1200
    punkhead89: posts the ante 1200
    matius71: posts the ante 1200
    mirkolai: posts the ante 1200
    bourbonpoker: posts the ante 1200
    RudiRollig81: posts small blind 6000
    Bookie1978: posts big blind 12000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to berra008 [Qd Kd]
    punkhead89: folds
    matius71: folds
    mirkolai: raises 18000 to 30000
    bourbonpoker: folds
    jarekk: folds
    berra008: calls 30000
    halva1: folds
    RudiRollig81: folds
    Bookie1978: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Jd 6h 4d]
    mirkolai: bets 42000
    berra008: raises 70500 to 112500
    mirkolai: raises 700886 to 813386 and is all-in
    berra008: calls 360267 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (340619) returned to mirkolai
    *** TURN *** [Jd 6h 4d] [6c]
    *** RIVER *** [Jd 6h 4d 6c] [2h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    mirkolai: shows [7d Ad] (a pair of Sixes)
    berra008: shows [Qd Kd] (a pair of Sixes - lower kicker)
    mirkolai collected 1034334 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1034334 | Rake 0
    Board [Jd 6h 4d 6c 2h]
    Seat 1: jarekk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: berra008 showed [Qd Kd] and lost with a pair of Sixes
    Seat 3: halva1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: RudiRollig81 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: Bookie1978 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: punkhead89 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: matius71 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: mirkolai showed [7d Ad] and won (1034334) with a pair of Sixes
    Seat 9: bourbonpoker folded before Flop (didn't bet)
     
  2. JimmyMac20 JimmyMac20 is offline

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    Apr 8th, 2010 (4/8/2010 6:33pm) in reply to berra008

    Yea, i don't think i get away from that either. Cooler.
  3. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Apr 8th, 2010 (4/8/2010 8:51pm) in reply to berra008

    Yeah, that's unlucky.

    Not that it matters, but I think I shove the flop rather than the baby raise. Use that stack a bit.
     
  4. washedup210 washedup210 is offline

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    Apr 9th, 2010 (4/9/2010 6:18am) in reply to berra008

    theres really no need to go broke on the second nut draw here..most players that lead into that board are looking to get it in and you just invite it by raising there...i dont mind calling and seeing what he does on the turn, you are gonna have way better spots to make money... if you both made the flush and the board wasnt paired then i mgiht call it a cooler... right now im calling it an overplayed draw.
  5. washedup210 washedup210 is offline

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    Apr 9th, 2010 (4/9/2010 6:20am) in reply to washedup210

    that being said--- im going broke too hahah
  6. NG3434 NG3434 is offline make it happen

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    Apr 9th, 2010 (4/9/2010 3:15pm) in reply to berra008

    I call his bet on the flop, and see what he does on the turn. If he shuts down on the turn then I definitely bet. The 6c would have worked to your advantage here to make it look like you called the flop bet with a 6 and how you can represent it. I hate risking my whole tournament on a draw that I have to hit. If the board was K6d4d then 100% I'm all in because I at least have a pair to go with the draw. Here I say on the flop call>fold>all-in>small reraise+call all in... I'm just a guy who doesnt like to risk the tournament on something that I have to hit or else I'm out... against like a 300k stack here I can see the call but not with my life at risk

    - Also I could see a reraise preflop in this spot since mirkolai is the CL at what looks to be the final table by the stack sizes? the CL is probably making a small raise with a marginal hand like A7, your reraise would get him out of the hand, or at least warn you that you are up against a big hand if he calls.
     
  7. Black Serac Black Serac is offline

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    Apr 12th, 2010 (4/12/2010 11:03am) in reply to washedup210

     
    Originally Posted by washedup210 View Post

    theres really no need to go broke on the second nut draw here..most players that lead into that board are looking to get it in and you just invite it by raising there...i dont mind calling and seeing what he does on the turn, you are gonna have way better spots to make money... if you both made the flush and the board wasnt paired then i mgiht call it a cooler... right now im calling it an overplayed draw.

    I second that...

    Allin on a draw with a healthy stack is a very high risk play. I would call and try to keep the pot small.
  8. BBird40 BBird40 is offline

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    Apr 12th, 2010 (4/12/2010 3:48pm) in reply to Black Serac

    Well, you got alot of things to think about. You are in position, depending on the style of the player, I would 3-bet KQs.

    On the flop, he is c-betting, then you put in a tiny re-raise. To me, why are you putting in that tiny re-raise. Before I every raise, EVERY TIME I RAISE, I think "if this guy calls will I like it? If this guy folds will I like it? if this guy re-raises will I like it?" What are you trying to do with this raise? I can see the idea of trying to buy 2 more cards to get to your flush, but you gotta consider that this guy just bet on a J hi flush draw board, it looks like a c-bet and to me if you just call he may shut down on the turn.

    I think if you are going to re-raise, you gotta shove (put him to the last guess -- which he will not call) or min-raise (alot of ppl such as myself, interpret this as strength until proven otherwise).

    So all in all, I'm 3-betting pre. Then calling on the flop.
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