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do you overcall here?

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  1. dolce dolce is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2006 (4/26/2006 3:11am)

    Hand #31221443-7917 at Michigan City (No Limit Hold'em)
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    Started at 26/Apr/06 03:04:49

    archiebe is at seat 0 with $68 .
    enis is at seat 2 with $45 .50.
    IVIatty is at seat 3 with $407 .15.
    SeanJ_ is at seat 4 with $311 .95.
    shamas otoole is at seat 5 with $73 .55.
    The button is at seat 5.

    archiebe posts the small blind of $1.
    enis posts the big blind of $2.

    archiebe: -- --
    enis: -- --
    IVIatty: -- --
    SeanJ_: -- --
    shamas otoole:

    Pre-flop:
    IVIatty folds. SeanJ_ folds. shamas otoole raises
    to $7. archiebe re-raises to $23. enis calls.
    shamas otoole calls.

    Flop: (board: ):

    archiebe goes all-in for $45. enis goes all-in for
    $22.50. shamas otoole....

    reads are solid on both players... what do you put them on?
  2. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2006 (4/26/2006 11:50am) in reply to dolce

    I'm guessing at least one person has an overpair. I would put Archie on either a 10-10 or a J-J. He had a huge bet going in, seemed like he wanted to buy this pot pre-flop (though, with the raise, you can't eliminate K-K or A-A). The caller, probably the same. Though, I play tons of low limit tourney's, and I could see the person calling having an 8 or even a 3 (if they had A-3 suited). So, I would fold here. I figure at least one person has you.

    So, what happened?
  3. bullybrie bullybrie is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2006 (4/26/2006 12:03pm) in reply to lordxixor101

    i agree with lord; one, maybe even both have higher pocket pairs and even if they don't i believe they have minimum of two overcards (AK,AQ,KQ) or A8,A3 so you have to fold. Personally i think your pre-flop play is poor.....commiting $23 out of you 75 to pocket 7s. What happens if 3 overs hit.....you have to fold. My advice is to try to see flops with middle pocket pairs fairly cheaply and when the implied odds are great (8:1)

    what happened?
  4. dolce dolce is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2006 (4/26/2006 12:47pm) in reply to bullybrie

    i ended up calling and being against AK and AK, it held :x
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    Apr 26th, 2006 (4/26/2006 12:52pm) in reply to dolce

    i think thats a bad call imo....-ev move in most cases
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    Apr 26th, 2006 (4/26/2006 12:55pm) in reply to Cortz

    as i stated i would have folded here. Can i ask why after you initially raised to $7 and it got repopped to 23 with a caller did you call? did you believe your 7s were good and what did you put the other two on?
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    Apr 26th, 2006 (4/26/2006 1:45pm) in reply to bullybrie

    the first caller was in the game for something like $600 already, pretty much calling everything with any two. the other guy hadn't really done much, so i figured AK was a distinct possibility, although he certainly couldve had qq kk aa etc...
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