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do you play differently live and online?

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  1. yoonaSNSDjess yoonaSNSDjess is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 3:43am)

    as the title suggests, besides being able to read people live, do you play differently?
  2. Getumboy Getumboy is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 3:53am) in reply to yoonaSNSDjess

    One thing I can quickly think of is when you get to push/fold stacks live vs online. Live, my shove range opens a little more and my calling ranges narrow a bit because of the live nits. You can almost always tell the live grinders also so this would only pertain to them.
  3. Pick6man Pick6man is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 4:14am) in reply to Getumboy

    Def tightening calling ranges and 3 bet jamming a ton more to position raisers that flip up QQ and say "I am gonna give you some respect"
     
  4. Str8ToTheNuts Str8ToTheNuts is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 5:38am) in reply to Pick6man

    Where the heck are u guys playing??? Where I play A4o is the pre-flop nuts...
  5. njw11 njw11 is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 5:47am) in reply to Str8ToTheNuts

    neone who dosent play differently is doing it wrong
     
  6. Ahurazor Ahurazor is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 6:03am) in reply to njw11

     
    Originally Posted by njw11 View Post

    neone who dosent play differently is doing it wrong

    exactly this, was ready to put that almost to the tea whilst opening this thread.
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  7. yoonaSNSDjess yoonaSNSDjess is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 6:20am) in reply to Ahurazor

    ok i thought it was just me
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  8. drunk_bunny drunk_bunny is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 8:18am) in reply to yoonaSNSDjess

    Yep, I play a lot faster online.
  9. Ponky Ponky is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 8:26am) in reply to drunk_bunny

    I put pants on
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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 9:39am) in reply to Ponky

    lol i make ridiculous hero plays live (that don't work). has a lot to do with the boredom associated with so few hands an hour.
     
  11. takedown takedown is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 9:58am) in reply to Pick6man

     
    Originally Posted by Pick6man View Post

    Def tightening calling ranges and 3 bet jamming a ton more to position raisers that flip up QQ and say "I am gonna give you some respect"

    This is the nuts.

    Also the size of your reship can typically be less live and still effective. For example a lot of people will raise fold AQ versus a 15bb reship live, where online they can't call quick enough.
  12. crazyfist crazyfist is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 11:32am) in reply to takedown

    I've started minraising live in spots where I would be shoving online because the liveament donks play so bad. You can take down a lot of pots pre or on the flop with a cbet when you are bluffing and get them to flop something and stack off light when you're strong. Most of their 3bet ranges are so strong that it's going to be more profitable to open raise and fold to a shove
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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 6:08pm) in reply to Getumboy

     
    Originally Posted by Getumboy View Post

    One thing I can quickly think of is when you get to push/fold stacks live vs online. Live, my shove range opens a little more and my calling ranges narrow a bit because of the live nits. You can almost always tell the live grinders also so this would only pertain to them.

    FUNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYY you say this, my first live series i ever played in, event #1 had about 800 runners, i had been card dead for hours and probably was playing to nitty! i pick up 99 OTB wit 12.2k at 5-1k w/antes c/o opens to 2500 and i think sweet finally a spot to jam being completely standard! gets to old dude and he is tanking, at this point i think he has a smaller pair than me and am screaming for a call inside my goofy, not use to live poker head, he finally tables QQ and says "i think you have the KINGS" and to my shock the two guys to his right say "excellent laydown sir"
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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 8:59pm) in reply to Suitedace87

    i pretty much play the same and pretty aggro , people give to much credit, but like some others said , tighten up calling range , but that is also player dependant and against some u just know there range is so tight so it makes it pretty easy to adjust
     
  15. Passiveplay Passiveplay is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 9:06pm) in reply to mattdb9er

    I used to play a lot weaker because I didn't trust my instincts live, or maybe just didn't wanna look stupid infront of people. But since putting in more time live I feel more comfortable sticking too my reads.
     
  16. elusively elusively is online now

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 9:38pm) in reply to Passiveplay

    -way more FE live, so use that to your adv. when it's appropriate. you can profitably/correctly r/f 20bb (and less!) stacks in live MTT's in some spots, doubt anyone does this online anymore.
    -people telegraph their hand/action in live games, plethora of info is available to you--if you're paying attention. online you have sizing and timing tells only.

    in live MTT's i play extremely wide in position and am basically just building pots and taking them away postflop w/ various different lines depending on opponents, flop texture and stack sizes. sometimes i'll even make a real hand and am able to get paid w/ an active image. online players are better in general so they will adjust faster and read the board better.

    edit: what passiveplay said is HUGE about going w/ your reads. once you see that what you're doing works and is profitable, you stand behind your decisions much more confidently, which is extremely important IMO. this obv applies to both online and live, but in live MTT's it's often hard to pull the trigger on re-steal shoves pre and 3barrel bluffs b/c you have to show that hand down in front of 10 real life people. online you have 10 other tables going and everyone is used to it.
    Edited By: elusively Jan 5th, 2011 at 09:41 PM
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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 10:01pm) in reply to Ponky

     
    Originally Posted by Ponky View Post

    I put pants on

    Same, and they tend to frown upon masturbation at live tables
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    Jan 6th, 2011 (1/6/2011 12:32am) in reply to Suitedace87

     
    Originally Posted by Suitedace87 View Post

    FUNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYY you say this, my first live series i ever played in, event #1 had about 800 runners, i had been card dead for hours and probably was playing to nitty! i pick up 99 OTB wit 12.2k at 5-1k w/antes c/o opens to 2500 and i think sweet finally a spot to jam being completely standard! gets to old dude and he is tanking, at this point i think he has a smaller pair than me and am screaming for a call inside my goofy, not use to live poker head, he finally tables QQ and says "i think you have the KINGS" and to my shock the two guys to his right say "excellent laydown sir"

    if true story then L-O-L!
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  19. Resindog Resindog is offline

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    Jan 10th, 2011 (1/10/2011 9:05pm) in reply to Str8ToTheNuts

     
    Originally Posted by Str8ToTheNuts View Post

    Where the heck are u guys playing??? Where I play A4o is the pre-flop nuts...

    Same here... at the 1st blind level!
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    Jan 10th, 2011 (1/10/2011 9:40pm) in reply to Suitedace87

     
    Originally Posted by Suitedace87 View Post

    FUNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYY you say this, my first live series i ever played in, event #1 had about 800 runners, i had been card dead for hours and probably was playing to nitty! i pick up 99 OTB wit 12.2k at 5-1k w/antes c/o opens to 2500 and i think sweet finally a spot to jam being completely standard! gets to old dude and he is tanking, at this point i think he has a smaller pair than me and am screaming for a call inside my goofy, not use to live poker head, he finally tables QQ and says "i think you have the KINGS" and to my shock the two guys to his right say "excellent laydown sir"

    this +1million

    and, SNSD ftw
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