as title suggest.

i see people posting things like " in a $X tourney.. u should do such such...."

would you really play ie..AQ,AK differently in lower stake (1r,2r,3r?) compare to high stake (162,100k, warm up.etc)


just want some thoughts..

It definitely makes a difference to me. I am a micro player and have had several shots at higher stakes via satties etc and I find I just tighten up so much as the money involved is so much higher

No, and yes.

No, you should always take the same approach to every hand that you play. Look at the actions of your opponent and try to figure out their thought process. Match their range of hands against what you believe that they perceive your range of hands to be and then make the decision that yields the greatest expected value.

Yes, it is different in the respect that a lot of times players at micro and lower buy-in games do not try to even range their opponents, let alone match up their perceived range vs. that range. They often just look at their cards and press buttons with out a ton of thought. Your overall process should be the same when playing different players, in widely varying buyins, however you will find that more advanced levels of thought process will be weighted significantly less, on average, in the lower buyins vs. presumablely weaker and less sophiscated opponents.

The reason why people put X$ buy-in in posts describing hands, usually, is vs. randoms it is often easier to make less complex assumptions the lower the stakes are because of factors like general knowledge and sophistication of the field, and rough estimates of the amount of money they are playing for and how these considerations will affect opponents. For instance, a random with 13 left in the daily 6max 10k $55 buy-in will probably be less affected by the money than a random in the sunday DNG $55 buyin that has a 1st place of 40K+. It will also give information as to the structure of the tournament which should come into your decision process.

qjuice14 hit the nail on the head here. I def OPR lots of players. I know that OPR can be used in many different, but I tend to look at it and depending on the situation I range them accordingly.

There is however one situation that qjuice has left out and that is the fact that there are buy-ins that do not follow the rules. I don't know them all but lots have to do with some of the flag ships like the Sunday Milli put on by PS. Everyone refers to it as the minefield but this is due to the fact that PS has populated it with fish, and in turn this causes +EV situation for decent players. I mean really all you hear is complaining about this tournament but it is like taking a waterbed filled with sharks and adding tons of fish. Which in turn feeds the sharks of course their will be a fish that gets lucky and takes down a few sharks but overall the fish are just being used to help the sharks. The reason these are an exception is because of the fact that with them being populated with so many fish it makes the higher buy-in actually play more like a $3 tournament for a large portion of the time, and yes I know that by the last few tables their may be a higher level of thinking depending where you seated.

of course people play different in different stake tournys

 

Originally Posted by LiquidSw0rd

I don't agree with this argument : every hand is different (especialy in MTTs) and need a particluar approach partially dictated by the buy-in amount of the tourney IMO; and there is just a world between a random in the 1k Monday or in a random in a 4,40$ FO. If you 3bet AltyAA or Little Kraut post-antes OTB when they open UTG, they will not react the same way in a 2.20$ FO or in the 100$r if they percieve you as a random.

i dont think he meant to say 'play AK the same way u play AK every time'

i think his main point and the keyword was "approach" meaning; before u take ANY action, look at the table, look at the dynamics, look at what mtt ur playing, look at the stacks, define ranges, and then take action.

Just cuz its a 2.20 mtt doesnt mean u shud skip those steps. In fact it is taking the same approach every hand is what allows good players to play differently at different levels of buy ins.

the buyin means nothing to me i play the same in a 10 $ donkfest online to a 1k tourney live BUT i am backed live if that makes a difference? so its never my money if i lose haha

 

Originally Posted by DoNk3y F3sT

the buyin means nothing to me i play the same in a 10 $ donkfest online to a 1k tourney live BUT i am backed live if that makes a difference? so its never my money if i lose haha

who would back u with those comments?

 

Originally Posted by DoNk3y F3sT

some 1 who likes to make money Son

this HAS to be the biggest lvl ever

 

Originally Posted by DoNk3y F3sT

some 1 who likes to make money Son

I lold.

 

Originally Posted by ShyGuy03533

your sn says it all...

EDIT: Oh wait... ur the guy who thinks he is a legend cuz he folded AK pf in a $4.40 stars donkfest

FYP don't want the huge buy-in for Donkfest to go unnoticed lol

 

Originally Posted by qjuice14

If this is your response, I don't think you understand my post.

actually i just don't get the part where you try to defend the "No" and why. the rest is pretty well said tho.

 

Originally Posted by DoNk3y F3sT

the buyin means nothing to me i play the same in a 10 $ donkfest online to a 1k tourney live BUT i am backed live if that makes a difference? so its never my money if i lose haha

but guys he shipped a $2 6-max on stars!!!
Legend imo

 

Originally Posted by little kraut

Table dynamics is what changes the way a tourney should be played, not buy in. You will sometimes be at a micro table where people are just pulling random 3 bets outta nowhere. Everything is very tournament dependent and buy in really doesnt matter. You will see every type of player at every level of buy in and must be able to recognize what type of players you are playing against and play accordingly no matter what stake.

listen to this man

Yeah karut is right about playing against specific players. The problem is that in mtts a majority of the time you will have very little time to establish those reads. I think that if you are speaking in general terms, I would expect very differant hand ranges in spots from players in a $150 opposed to a $10. A good example is if you raise the button and a 20bb stack shoves on you, I would expect a typical $10 players range to be quite a bit tighter than a player in a $150. Lower stakes players a more often going to call where a decent mid stakes player is going to understand the situation and use his stack and fold equity to put pressure on by shoving a wider range.