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Don't like any of my options w/ JJ in the 50/50

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  1. kxywrx kxywrx is offline

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    Aug 10th, 2010 (8/10/2010 3:58am)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #22966985093: The Fifty-Fifty (175381157), Table 16 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:25:12 ET - 2010/08/09
    Seat 1: kxywrx (3,611)
    Seat 3: NYROUNDER310 (2,605)
    Seat 4: jhill_madami (2,630)
    Seat 5: AD_84 (5,445)
    Seat 6: DummyVladi (4,040)
    Seat 7: Qwelish (322)
    Seat 8: tjsimoneau (3,230)
    Seat 9: GETGOT (2,771)
    AD_84 posts the small blind of 25
    DummyVladi posts the big blind of 50
    The button is in seat #4
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to kxywrx [Jc Jh]
    Qwelish raises to 322, and is all in
    tjsimoneau calls 322
    GETGOT has 15 seconds left to act
    GETGOT folds
    kxywrx has 15 seconds left to act

    really not sure what to do here, with the utg shove and utg+1 flat.. so many people left to act behind me, and i have about 70bb if my math is right.. what's your play ?
     
  2. poisoneye1986 poisoneye1986 is offline

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    Aug 10th, 2010 (8/10/2010 4:03am) in reply to kxywrx

    raise and then call.
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    Aug 10th, 2010 (8/10/2010 4:04am) in reply to kxywrx

    Call
  4. FenwayKing FenwayKing is offline The Well: FenwayKing

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    Aug 10th, 2010 (8/10/2010 4:25am) in reply to Rounder Rick

    not sure if this 100% correct but imo:

    shove>fold>>>>>>>>>flat>r/c

    hope someone can correct me if i'm wrong in my thinking
    Edited By: FenwayKing Aug 10th, 2010 at 04:25 AM
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  5. Brunson10 Brunson10 is offline

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    Aug 10th, 2010 (8/10/2010 4:40am) in reply to FenwayKing

     
    Originally Posted by FenwayKing View Post

    not sure if this 100% correct but imo:

    shove>fold>>>>>>>>>flat>r/c

    hope someone can correct me if i'm wrong in my thinking

    this.....shoving will add about 20%+ to your stack and I doubt the other guy is flatting anything that will make you a huge dog if called
    Edited By: Brunson10 Aug 10th, 2010 at 04:58 AM
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    Aug 10th, 2010 (8/10/2010 4:42am) in reply to Brunson10

    What's not to like? 3bet call or shove. Maybe if the flatter is super tight or very good I might flat but other than that it's a good spot.
     
  7. kxywrx kxywrx is offline

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    Aug 10th, 2010 (8/10/2010 5:06am) in reply to heynow21

    well my thinking is this: 70bb preante and a lot of people still left behind me to act, i feel it would be a bit spewy to just straight shove that.. i know JJ is a good hand, and i'd be more willing to do this say, if this were the same hand but instead, UTG was like MP or something. i also feel like flatting here is bad because it invites others to come along with speculative hands and playing JJ in an already big pot multiple ways is something i'm not looking forward to. i also think that r/c would be worse than shoving because i really don't see TT reshoving on us all too much. at least if we shove, it looks a little more like the AK type hands and he could convince himself to call with weaker pairs, although i think shoving here is still a bit spewy. folding here to me seems a bit nitty but i dno. and thanks for the responses so far guys, but if you say flat or 3b or w/e can u plz explain why ? thanks!
     
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    Aug 10th, 2010 (8/10/2010 7:05am) in reply to FenwayKing

     
    Originally Posted by FenwayKing View Post

    shove>fold>>>>>>>>>flat>r/c

    I disagree with this. I am flatting. Folding is easily the worst option.
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    Aug 10th, 2010 (8/10/2010 7:24am) in reply to Pghfan987

     
    Originally Posted by Pghfan987 View Post

    Folding is easily the worst option.

    "I know a worse one."

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