i don't like any of that hand.
if you think you're ahead before the flop shove. that's either shove/fold pre.

other than that, i don't like the flop bet either

i think this was played terrible.

 

Originally Posted by jamie16119

i don't like any of that hand.
if you think you're ahead before the flop shove. that's either shove/fold pre.

other than that, i don't like the flop bet either

i think this was played terrible.

its effectively a shove preflop if you know your jamming the flop...
so its basically a preflop shove.

its a 1400 person tourney so prize jumps are big so the raiser is going to only call when your crushed considering there were two short stacks.

obv if you can outplay the guy on the flop might be a spot to play a flop instead.

you know on facebook they have that 'like this'
they should have that on p5s imo

this is basically a SHOVE/FOLD preflop
you can't flatcall that imo

Aren't we like 40ish bb's deep? Way to deep to just shove. 3 bet smaller, like 50k max, probably more like 44k. Flop...I dunno...but shoving definately isn't the right answer. Either bet/fold or bet/call and this is definately player dependant.

 

Originally Posted by rivverkiller

Aren't we like 40ish bb's deep? Way to deep to just shove. 3 bet smaller, like 50k max, probably more like 44k. Flop...I dunno...but shoving definately isn't the right answer. Either bet/fold or bet/call and this is definately player dependant.

we're like 38 bbs deep his 4x is standard which starts the problems.

i suppose a small reraise behind and small flop bet would be fairly effective in figuring out where we are in this hand i dont think he would try a bluff after this.

obv. i leave myself in 3rd just ahead of the other two stacks this way. i can probably still manage a second or third.

obv also this is a better play in a 180 person turbo sit and go where you just need to mass chips as fast as possible.

 

Originally Posted by jamie16119

this again, makes no sence??
why would you do that??
so if the jk9 you're shoving the flop
i sir, think you need to stick to your sngs

you dont understand. if you have seen any kind of poker you have seen this play. stop and go its pretty standard these days.

so say my opponent had AK AQ AJ on this flop i get him to fold where as pre he does not fold.

there is really no downside to flatting pre than jamming. its the same thing as going all in pre. with more fold equity in cases where you have marginal hands.

 

Originally Posted by swingset

What i want to know is why you dildos change all the names on the hand histories and leave your profiles blank.

Here are the names since he left the hand number. But OP blocked all his stats from Sharkscope (although 16K sng played @ 29% ROI, well done!) and OPR.

pokerstars Game #28781984751: Tournament #165726888, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIX (20000/40000) - 2009/05/30 11:18:31 CET [2009/05/30 5:18:31 ET]
Table '165726888 26' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: imjuniar (439380 in chips)
Seat 3: A-U-SUC-IC (1505616 in chips)
Seat 5: Mike790 (476392 in chips)
Seat 7: tendog (1520612 in chips)
imjuniar: posts the ante 4000
A-U-SUC-IC: posts the ante 4000
Mike790: posts the ante 4000
tendog: posts the ante 4000
tendog: posts small blind 20000
imjuniar: posts big blind 40000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
A-U-SUC-IC said, "hope we finish b4 thenn"
A-U-SUC-IC: raises 120000 to 160000
Mike790: folds
tendog: raises 440000 to 600000
imjuniar: folds
A-U-SUC-IC: calls 440000
*** FLOP *** [8c 9h 7c]
tendog: bets 916612 and is all-in
A-U-SUC-IC: calls 901616 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (14996) returned to tendog
Mike790 said, "wow"
*** TURN *** [8c 9h 7c] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [8c 9h 7c Jc] [6h]
Mike790 said, "gl"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tendog: shows [7h Ac] (a pair of Sevens)
A-U-SUC-IC: shows [Qc Qs] (a pair of Queens)
A-U-SUC-IC collected 3059232 from pot
imjuniar said, "deal?"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3059232 | Rake 0
Board [8c 9h 7c Jc 6h]
Seat 1: imjuniar (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: A-U-SUC-IC showed [Qc Qs] and won (3059232) with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: Mike790 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: tendog (small blind) showed [7h Ac] and lost with a pair of Sevens

dude stop n go is soo 2007 bra

ur so 2000 and eight , im so 3000 and late. /fold pre

 

Originally Posted by jamie16119

stop and going a7 is bludy awful.

there is no difference between shoving A7 pre and stop and going it it is effectively the same thing. i dont know why you cant see that.

if he knew i was going to jam any flop than its the same exact thing as jamming pre.

obv you can say jamming A7 pre is bad fair enough.

Dreams crushed? At least you played bad.....my AA vs QQ all in preflop was beaten by a 5% on the river...for outright chiplead and 3k.

Busted 6th for a measly 600

Jesus... Fold pre. Why tangle with the other big stack with such a shitacular hand and when he called your 3 bet pre you obv should have known your 7 was not good on flop.

 

Originally Posted by maxgridlock

 

Originally Posted by jamie16119

stop and going a7 is bludy awful.

there is no difference between shoving A7 pre and stop and going it it is effectively the same thing. i dont know why you cant see that.

if he knew i was going to jam any flop than its the same exact thing as jamming pre.

obv you can say jamming A7 pre is bad fair enough.

It's tilting me to keep seeing stop n go when it's a go n go, which shows much more strength than a stop n go. In any event, I fold pre. Two stacks at 10-12 bbs and you and the other guy are 35 bbs + not sure why you inflate a pot OOP with a7o.

This thread is tilting the fuck out of me, jesus how did you even FT this?