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Full Tilt Poker Game #10955380476: Table Neeham (heads up) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:04:39 ET - 2009/03/04
Seat 1: __FullFlush1__ ($40,200)
Seat 2: durrrr ($57,197)
__FullFlush1__ posts the small blind of $200
durrrr posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
__FullFlush1__ raises to $1,200
durrrr raises to $3,600
__FullFlush1__ calls $2,400
*** FLOP *** [7c Ac 9h]
durrrr checks
__FullFlush1__ has 15 seconds left to act
__FullFlush1__ bets $5,200
durrrr calls $5,200
*** TURN *** [7c Ac 9h] [Ks]
durrrr checks
__FullFlush1__ checks
*** RIVER *** [7c Ac 9h Ks] [4c]
durrrr checks
__FullFlush1__ has 15 seconds left to act
__FullFlush1__ bets $31,400, and is all in
durrrr calls $31,400
Deleted the showdown part to make it more interesting just wondering what people think they had in this spot, because when I watched the hand happen I just couldnt believe it...
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Joined: Feb 06Mar 4th, 2009 (3/4/2009 1:21am) in reply to DEApoker87
The bare minimum i need to call with in Durr' spot is K10..this is considering the flow of the game and player tendencies ( aggro,3-bet bluffing etc.)
PS..I did see the hand go to Showdown and was amazed -
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durr calls him w/ jqo
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Ziigmund: durrrrr
durrrr: wtup
Ziigmund: fullflush v good?
durrrr: i dont think so
durrrr: i think hes someone decent on a heater
Dealer: durrrr has 15 seconds left to act
durrrr: who will go bust if he keeps playing these stakes
durrrr: he was on such a sick heater
Dealer: durrrr has 15 seconds left to act
durrrr: anytime he loses a pot he cant take it and instaquits tho
Dealer: Ziigmund shows a pair of Jacks
Dealer: Ziigmund wins the pot ($17,999.50) with a pair of Jacks
Dealer: Hand #10956692453
durrrr: so idk mayb if he runs bad he will just quit
Dealer: Ziigmund has 15 seconds left to act
System: The $8,500 Guarantee ($24+$2 NL Hold'em) will be starting in 4 minutes.
Dealer: durrrr wins the pot ($17,999.50)
Dealer: Hand #10956697352
Dealer: durrrr has 15 seconds left to act
durrrr: i mean hes definitely decent
Dealer: durrrr wins the pot ($2,000)
Dealer: Hand #10956699279
durrrr: could probably beat a lot of 25/50 guys etc
durrrr: i havnt played him much, but id assume the best 25/50
guys would beat him longterm tho
durrrr: we'll see
durrrr: hopefully im right n he doesnt quit me =) -
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Does anyone know if Durrrr ended up registering for the $26 $8,500 guarantee?Originally Posted by thelandlord
Ziigmund: durrrrr
durrrr: wtup
Ziigmund: fullflush v good?
durrrr: i dont think so
durrrr: i think hes someone decent on a heater
Dealer: durrrr has 15 seconds left to act
durrrr: who will go bust if he keeps playing these stakes
durrrr: he was on such a sick heater
Dealer: durrrr has 15 seconds left to act
durrrr: anytime he loses a pot he cant take it and instaquits tho
Dealer: Ziigmund shows a pair of Jacks
Dealer: Ziigmund wins the pot ($17,999.50) with a pair of Jacks
Dealer: Hand #10956692453
durrrr: so idk mayb if he runs bad he will just quit
Dealer: Ziigmund has 15 seconds left to act
System: The $8,500 Guarantee ($24+$2 NL Hold'em) will be starting in 4 minutes.
Dealer: durrrr wins the pot ($17,999.50)
Dealer: Hand #10956697352
Dealer: durrrr has 15 seconds left to act
durrrr: i mean hes definitely decent
Dealer: durrrr wins the pot ($2,000)
Dealer: Hand #10956699279
durrrr: could probably beat a lot of 25/50 guys etc
durrrr: i havnt played him much, but id assume the best 25/50
guys would beat him longterm tho
durrrr: we'll see
durrrr: hopefully im right n he doesnt quit me =) -
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Joined: Dec 07Mar 4th, 2009 (3/4/2009 5:56am) in reply to Pghfan987
LOL...wpOriginally Posted by Pghfan987
Does anyone know if Durrrr ended up registering for the $26 $8,500 guarantee?Originally Posted by thelandlord
Ziigmund: durrrrr
durrrr: wtup
Ziigmund: fullflush v good?
durrrr: i dont think so
durrrr: i think hes someone decent on a heater
Dealer: durrrr has 15 seconds left to act
durrrr: who will go bust if he keeps playing these stakes
durrrr: he was on such a sick heater
Dealer: durrrr has 15 seconds left to act
durrrr: anytime he loses a pot he cant take it and instaquits tho
Dealer: Ziigmund shows a pair of Jacks
Dealer: Ziigmund wins the pot ($17,999.50) with a pair of Jacks
Dealer: Hand #10956692453
durrrr: so idk mayb if he runs bad he will just quit
Dealer: Ziigmund has 15 seconds left to act
System: The $8,500 Guarantee ($24+$2 NL Hold'em) will be starting in 4 minutes.
Dealer: durrrr wins the pot ($17,999.50)
Dealer: Hand #10956697352
Dealer: durrrr has 15 seconds left to act
durrrr: i mean hes definitely decent
Dealer: durrrr wins the pot ($2,000)
Dealer: Hand #10956699279
durrrr: could probably beat a lot of 25/50 guys etc
durrrr: i havnt played him much, but id assume the best 25/50
guys would beat him longterm tho
durrrr: we'll see
durrrr: hopefully im right n he doesnt quit me =) -
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Joined: Dec 08Mar 4th, 2009 (3/4/2009 9:23am) in reply to DEApoker87
If I had to guess, he had 89s
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ok, so what happened?
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Full Tilt Poker Game #10955380476: Table Neeham (heads up) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:04:39 ET - 2009/03/04
Seat 1: __FullFlush1__ ($40,200)
Seat 2: durrrr ($57,197)
__FullFlush1__ posts the small blind of $200
durrrr posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
__FullFlush1__ raises to $1,200
durrrr raises to $3,600
__FullFlush1__ calls $2,400
*** FLOP *** [7c Ac 9h]
durrrr checks
__FullFlush1__ has 15 seconds left to act
__FullFlush1__ bets $5,200
durrrr calls $5,200
*** TURN *** [7c Ac 9h] [Ks]
durrrr checks
__FullFlush1__ checks
*** RIVER *** [7c Ac 9h Ks] [4c]
durrrr checks
__FullFlush1__ has 15 seconds left to act
__FullFlush1__ bets $31,400, and is all in
durrrr calls $31,400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
__FullFlush1__ shows [5c 3d] Ace King high
durrrr shows [Jh Js] a pair of Jacks
durrrr wins the pot ($80,399.50) with a pair of Jacks
__FullFlush1__ adds $40,000
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $80,400 | Rake $0.50
Board: [7c Ac 9h Ks 4c]
Seat 1: __FullFlush1__ (small blind) showed [5c 3d] and lost with Ace King high
Seat 2: durrrr (big blind) showed [Jh Js] and won ($80,399.50) with a pair of Jacks
SORRY GUYS! passed out like 20 mins after I posted this completely forgot... heres the results... -
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Joined: Sep 07Mar 4th, 2009 (3/4/2009 10:48am) in reply to DEApoker87
I think that was pretty ignorant for durr to say the guy can beat a 25 50 game, but not this game. Very rarely have I played any cash games over 10 20 nl, but when I did, in south florida, these players were very strong. I guess what im trying to say is that there is little difference after 10 20nl and up. FYI, I am not a cash game player, but am I that far off?
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Joined: Feb 07Mar 4th, 2009 (3/4/2009 11:35am) in reply to ucfchamp
way offOriginally Posted by ucfchamp
I think that was pretty ignorant for durr to say the guy can beat a 25 50 game, but not this game. Very rarely have I played any cash games over 10 20 nl, but when I did, in south florida, these players were very strong. I guess what im trying to say is that there is little difference after 10 20nl and up. FYI, I am not a cash game player, but am I that far off?
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Posts: 4,520
Joined: May 06Mar 4th, 2009 (3/4/2009 12:21pm) in reply to DEApoker87
does full flushs line make any sense here?Originally Posted by DEApoker87
Full Tilt Poker Game #10955380476: Table Neeham (heads up) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:04:39 ET - 2009/03/04
Seat 1: __FullFlush1__ ($40,200)
Seat 2: durrrr ($57,197)
__FullFlush1__ posts the small blind of $200
durrrr posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
__FullFlush1__ raises to $1,200
durrrr raises to $3,600
__FullFlush1__ calls $2,400
*** FLOP *** [7c Ac 9h]
durrrr checks
__FullFlush1__ has 15 seconds left to act
__FullFlush1__ bets $5,200
durrrr calls $5,200
*** TURN *** [7c Ac 9h] [Ks]
durrrr checks
__FullFlush1__ checks
*** RIVER *** [7c Ac 9h Ks] [4c]
durrrr checks
__FullFlush1__ has 15 seconds left to act
__FullFlush1__ bets $31,400, and is all in
durrrr calls $31,400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
__FullFlush1__ shows [5c 3d] Ace King high
durrrr shows [Jh Js] a pair of Jacks
durrrr wins the pot ($80,399.50) with a pair of Jacks
__FullFlush1__ adds $40,000
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $80,400 | Rake $0.50
Board: [7c Ac 9h Ks 4c]
Seat 1: __FullFlush1__ (small blind) showed [5c 3d] and lost with Ace King high
Seat 2: durrrr (big blind) showed [Jh Js] and won ($80,399.50) with a pair of Jacks
SORRY GUYS! passed out like 20 mins after I posted this completely forgot... heres the results... -
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Joined: May 05Mar 4th, 2009 (3/4/2009 12:37pm) in reply to MasturNate
Not that far off. Some players value money more than others which in turn makes them play differently at higher levels. Take that for what its worth and than put it in a pipe and smoke it.Originally Posted by MasturNate
way offOriginally Posted by ucfchamp
I think that was pretty ignorant for durr to say the guy can beat a 25 50 game, but not this game. Very rarely have I played any cash games over 10 20 nl, but when I did, in south florida, these players were very strong. I guess what im trying to say is that there is little difference after 10 20nl and up. FYI, I am not a cash game player, but am I that far off?
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Joined: Feb 07Mar 4th, 2009 (3/4/2009 12:55pm) in reply to B_O_K_E
guess i have to stand corrected, but that hand where PA pwns Phil Laak seems to be a perfect example of a higher stakes player vs a nose-bleed stakes player.Originally Posted by B_O_K_E
Not that far off. Some players value money more than others which in turn makes them play differently at higher levels. Take that for what its worth and than put it in a pipe and smoke it.Originally Posted by MasturNate
way offOriginally Posted by ucfchamp
I think that was pretty ignorant for durr to say the guy can beat a 25 50 game, but not this game. Very rarely have I played any cash games over 10 20 nl, but when I did, in south florida, these players were very strong. I guess what im trying to say is that there is little difference after 10 20nl and up. FYI, I am not a cash game player, but am I that far off?
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Joined: Jul 08Mar 4th, 2009 (3/4/2009 1:20pm) in reply to POKER_PANDA
What amazed me the most is how quickly durrrr called, if you look at the hand history his 15 second clock doesnt even get activated.
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Joined: Feb 07Mar 4th, 2009 (3/4/2009 1:20pm) in reply to MasturNate
This is actually standard fullflush play and not as hard as a call for durrrr as it appears.
Fullflush has a style where he jams the river a lot, including huge overbets. He does this with his entire range from air to nuts. Hence, guys call 30k bets into 15k pots when he is sitting there with a set of Kings for example and they also call 30k into 15k when he has complete air like 5 high. He has employed this style pretty regularly against all of the guys he has encountered.
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Joined: Apr 07Mar 4th, 2009 (3/4/2009 5:43pm) in reply to jdpc27
Go to poker-king.com and read about who this full_flush dude is....they do an interview with him and he seems like a huge tool.
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Joined: Jan 06Mar 4th, 2009 (3/4/2009 6:22pm) in reply to ucfchamp
South Florida.....huh? No one is talking about live poker. Comparting simlilar stakes live and online is apples and oranges. 1/2 live = .10 .25 online, with online probably being tighter.Originally Posted by ucfchamp
I think that was pretty ignorant for durr to say the guy can beat a 25 50 game, but not this game. Very rarely have I played any cash games over 10 20 nl, but when I did, in south florida, these players were very strong. I guess what im trying to say is that there is little difference after 10 20nl and up. FYI, I am not a cash game player, but am I that far off?
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Joined: Jan 09Mar 4th, 2009 (3/4/2009 6:31pm) in reply to Zota15
THIS...Originally Posted by Zota15
South Florida.....huh? No one is talking about live poker. Comparting simlilar stakes live and online is apples and oranges. 1/2 live = .10 .25 online, with online probably being tighter.Originally Posted by ucfchamp
I think that was pretty ignorant for durr to say the guy can beat a 25 50 game, but not this game. Very rarely have I played any cash games over 10 20 nl, but when I did, in south florida, these players were very strong. I guess what im trying to say is that there is little difference after 10 20nl and up. FYI, I am not a cash game player, but am I that far off?
I remember crushing 1/2 and 2/5 NL games in california and nevada, but online at the same stakes I'm probably a losing player. -
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Joined: Jan 09Mar 4th, 2009 (3/4/2009 10:06pm) in reply to Chickenbrad
This hand gives me diahria and confirms why I will probably never be able to play at these levels or anywhere close...
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Joined: Nov 06Mar 4th, 2009 (3/4/2009 10:59pm) in reply to jdpc27
If this is true, this is exactly what makes it a tough call.Originally Posted by jdpc27
This is actually standard fullflush play and not as hard as a call for durrrr as it appears.
Fullflush has a style where he jams the river a lot, including huge overbets. He does this with his entire range from air to nuts.
Also I play cash pretty exclusively 5/10 to 50/100 PLO, my take on the higher limits is the difference in the top players at each level is not so great... but the lower the lvl the wider the range of players.. think of the variance in skill among the player pool at .5/1 vs. 10/20. -
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Joined: Mar 06Mar 5th, 2009 (3/5/2009 1:31am) in reply to DEApoker87
If Durrr knows his general line in hands (as jdpc laid out), this line is bad. If Durr is playing with him for the first time, this line is completely retarded. His check on the turn eliminates aces AND kings from his range, so his range is a flush, a busted straight draw or complete air. If I can make this read, Durrr can make this read times 20.
Call is standard given this knowledge, because while he can do this with air, he's much more likely to bet smaller with the flush.
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