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  1. R Arroll 77 R Arroll 77 is offline

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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 5:00am)

    4 betting with 86 off, Lederer does not push his AK to give him a chance of running the board a few times. So funny to see his face at the end of the hand, the Daniel says "you just got durrrrrred" Brilliant!!
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 5:50am) in reply to R Arroll 77

    That hand was absolutely sickening. The craziest part was how they checked it down all the way... I figured someone would throw in a bet on the turn to see where they were at.
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 5:54am) in reply to R Arroll 77

    Dwan played this hand bad, Lederer played it horribad.
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 6:36am) in reply to NeverScaredB

    I think it would have been interesting to see what durr's play would have been if the turn was a blank... you gotta think he is going to fire at that point... if not, then definetly the river... I think he was pretty sure the 8 was good, and the only hand that would call a bet had him beat, so he wisely checked it down..
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 9:13am) in reply to mindtrip954

    this WAS A 5 BET - learn the terminology, gabe kaplan
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 9:21am) in reply to R Arroll 77

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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 9:26am) in reply to TMLMS13

    I just cant believe howard flatted. I mean he knows durrr could play this way. He should have jammed the 4 bet maybe even for a 6bet no way on earth is flatting a 5bet good imp
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 11:20am) in reply to NeverScaredB

     
    Originally Posted by NeverScaredB View Post

    Dwan played this hand bad, Lederer played it horribad.

    I am sure you would have played it so much better since you can obv crush both of these players.
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 11:22am) in reply to kwkramer

     
    Originally Posted by kwkramer View Post

    this WAS A 5 BET - learn the terminology, gabe kaplan

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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 11:27am) in reply to louiemdj

     
    Originally Posted by louiemdj View Post

     
    Originally Posted by NeverScaredB View Post

    Dwan played this hand bad, Lederer played it horribad.

    I am sure you would have played it so much better since you can obv crush both of these players.

    lolz just stop posting louie

    A+++ wp by lederer
     
  11. XNASTYNATEX XNASTYNATEX is offline

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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 12:00pm) in reply to darkcheck_

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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 12:26pm) in reply to louiemdj

     
    Originally Posted by louiemdj View Post

     
    Originally Posted by NeverScaredB View Post

    Dwan played this hand bad, Lederer played it horribad.

    I am sure you would have played it so much better since you can obv crush both of these players.

    LOL at me not being able to a) Jam AKs or b) not 5-bet the nittiest player at the table laying myself better than 2:1 to call a 6-bet shove. And I say this as someone who has a tremendous amount of respect for Dwan's play because, unlike you, I actually understand some of the stuff he does.
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  13. louiemdj louiemdj is offline

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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 12:29pm) in reply to NeverScaredB

     
    Originally Posted by NeverScaredB View Post

     
    Originally Posted by louiemdj View Post

     
    Originally Posted by NeverScaredB View Post

    Dwan played this hand bad, Lederer played it horribad.

    I am sure you would have played it so much better since you can obv crush both of these players.

    LOL at me not being able to a) Jam AKs or b) not 5-bet the nittiest player at the table laying myself better than 2:1 to call a 6-bet shove. And I say this as someone who has a tremendous amount of respect for Dwan's play because, unlike you, I actually understand some of the stuff he does.

    maybe you could give me some lessons.
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 12:40pm) in reply to louiemdj

    i honestly am shocked by how bad lederer has played.

    the hand earlier in the season against hachem where he checkraised the turn when there were four clubs on the board and he had the 10c in his hand, and then folded to hachems reraise was just so bad.

    also, the sick hand between antonious and laak where he flats 88 pre and then doesnt even call laaks c-bet when three unders come out, while not as bad, was still very questionable.

    and then this hand. i mean folding would have been fine i suppose, but flatting oop is just terrible as he only left himself with a potsize bet after the flop, which is not at all deep enough to flat there with. this last hand really just shows that he is playing scared, not sure if its due to being underrolled (which i doubt b/c of stake in full tilt) or what, but if they are playing 25/50 he shoves that AKs against durrrr every time i guarantee.
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 12:53pm) in reply to kwkramer

    { } shocked
     
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 1:36pm) in reply to darkcheck_

    i dont think ive ever seen howard play well on any televised poker.
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 2:12pm) in reply to louiemdj

     
    Originally Posted by louiemdj View Post

     
    Originally Posted by NeverScaredB View Post

     
    Originally Posted by louiemdj View Post

     
    Originally Posted by NeverScaredB View Post

    Dwan played this hand bad, Lederer played it horribad.

    I am sure you would have played it so much better since you can obv crush both of these players.

    LOL at me not being able to a) Jam AKs or b) not 5-bet the nittiest player at the table laying myself better than 2:1 to call a 6-bet shove. And I say this as someone who has a tremendous amount of respect for Dwan's play because, unlike you, I actually understand some of the stuff he does.

    maybe you could give me some lessons.

    Obv you are being sarcastic but if he did give you some lessons it would probably be a good thing for you.
     
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 2:24pm) in reply to Beaver Fever

    durr's 5 bet is obv kind of suspect, but I do not think it's bad. His postflop play seems 100% std, he clearly was going to delayed c-bet the turn, then picked up showdown value and checked it down. I just think durrr prob gave howared a higher 4betting range then he prob has, but if durr thinks he can 4bet AQ+ TT+ and is only getting it in with KK+ then its def a +EV 5bet. Plus its on tv so it will make him look cool and get him a bj from one of the cocktail waitresses at the golden nugget
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 2:29pm) in reply to XNASTYNATEX

    TY, OP link didn't work.
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 2:30pm) in reply to ckingusc

     
    Originally Posted by ckingusc View Post

    durr's 5 bet is obv kind of suspect, but I do not think it's bad. His postflop play seems 100% std, he clearly was going to delayed c-bet the turn, then picked up showdown value and checked it down. I just think durrr prob gave howared a higher 4betting range then he prob has, but if durr thinks he can 4bet AQ+ TT+ and is only getting it in with KK+ then its def a +EV 5bet. Plus its on tv so it will make him look cool and get him a bj from one of the cocktail waitresses at the golden nugget

    ^^^just owned the thread.
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 3:00pm) in reply to Beaver Fever

     
    Originally Posted by Beaver Fever View Post

     
    Originally Posted by louiemdj View Post

     
    Originally Posted by NeverScaredB View Post

     
    Originally Posted by louiemdj View Post

     
    Originally Posted by NeverScaredB View Post

    Dwan played this hand bad, Lederer played it horribad.

    I am sure you would have played it so much better since you can obv crush both of these players.

    LOL at me not being able to a) Jam AKs or b) not 5-bet the nittiest player at the table laying myself better than 2:1 to call a 6-bet shove. And I say this as someone who has a tremendous amount of respect for Dwan's play because, unlike you, I actually understand some of the stuff he does.

    maybe you could give me some lessons.

    Obv you are being sarcastic but if he did give you some lessons it would probably be a good thing for you.

    I was actually being serious believe it or not. After I made my op and looked at his profile, I realized he might actually know more than I thought, but it was obv too late at that point.
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 3:04pm) in reply to louiemdj

    stick to luckboxing tournies neverscared
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 3:09pm) in reply to louiemdj

     
    Originally Posted by louiemdj View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Beaver Fever View Post

     
    Originally Posted by louiemdj View Post

     
    Originally Posted by NeverScaredB View Post

     
    Originally Posted by louiemdj View Post

     
    Originally Posted by NeverScaredB View Post

    Dwan played this hand bad, Lederer played it horribad.

    I am sure you would have played it so much better since you can obv crush both of these players.

    LOL at me not being able to a) Jam AKs or b) not 5-bet the nittiest player at the table laying myself better than 2:1 to call a 6-bet shove. And I say this as someone who has a tremendous amount of respect for Dwan's play because, unlike you, I actually understand some of the stuff he does.

    maybe you could give me some lessons.

    Obv you are being sarcastic but if he did give you some lessons it would probably be a good thing for you.

    I was actually being serious believe it or not. After I made my op and looked at his profile, I realized he might actually know more than I thought, but it was obv too late at that point.

    NEVERSCAREDB>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>LOUIEMDJ
     
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 3:32pm) in reply to PizzityPizzwnd

    Some of the players just seem like they're playing scared of the amounts of money involved and i think thats what durrrr thrives on and gives him a huge advantage.

    Lederer has to shove ak there. Same with that hand where Peter Eastgate folded trip 2's, how do they all give so much respect to durrr when he plays like a maniac.

    Obv they're all thinking many levels above me, but from just watching the show it seems that if you have a strong hand against durrrr, you need to get it in.
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 3:47pm) in reply to 8ROM

    They give respect to Durr because anyone can make big hands, even maniacs. Eastgate folded the trip 2's because he knew that Dwan knew that he had trips, therefore Dwan "shouldn't" ever bluff there. Also easy to say he shoulda 18 bet shoved AK there because you can see Durr has 8 6 off.
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 3:50pm) in reply to R Arroll 77

    What does amaze me is the respect that they give Durrr. They all know what he does and they joke about it, but imo they still respect his game.
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 4:09pm) in reply to TMLMS13

     
    Originally Posted by TMLMS13 View Post

    What does amaze me is the respect that they give Durrr. They all know what he does and they joke about it, but imo they still respect his game.

    They respect him cuz every time he goes to showdown he wins the hand and every time they dont' go to showdown durrr bluffs em out...plus it's too expensive to go nuts trying to bluff catch Durrr....not everyone is PA and can play a 200k+ pot with bottom pair out of 5 cards against Laak el oh el that was classic.
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 4:32pm) in reply to bef99hwk

    i honestly dont understand durrs 5 bet against the nittiest player at the table. he asked for a chip count so im guessing he wasnt pot committed to call a shove i have no idea. all i know is he had a strong conviction behind this play and wasnt doing it just for the hell of it. i dont know what his rationale was but i know he did get bailed out by lederers horrid play.

    durr knew what he was doing in the hand and lederer was confused by durrs play.
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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 4:59pm) in reply to louiemdj

     
    Originally Posted by louiemdj View Post

     
    Originally Posted by NeverScaredB View Post

    Dwan played this hand bad, Lederer played it horribad.

    I am sure you would have played it so much better since you can obv crush both of these players.

    You do realize that noone plays mistake free poker - even durrrr

    (this isn't a comment on this particular hand, just overall)
     
  30. RaidenRadio RaidenRadio is offline

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    Apr 28th, 2009 (4/28/2009 6:19pm) in reply to R Arroll 77

    I am beyond awful in cash games but am I the only that finds it strange betting 20k into a 27k pot flopping a set? Magnified by the fact that your table image is meta-tight? I mean Negreanu didn't even contemplate calling with his retard T7 crap.

    I don't know maybe I'm wrong but what a waste of a set that is to just blast everyone out and get no value out of it.
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