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  1. mikeand mikeand is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2008 (4/26/2008 7:30pm)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #6188669764: Table Ano (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 19:27:56 ET - 2008/04/26
    Seat 3: Markus Golser ($18,386.50)
    Seat 6: durrrr ($29,597)
    durrrr posts the small blind of $200
    Markus Golser posts the big blind of $400
    The button is in seat #6
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    durrrr raises to $1,200
    Markus Golser has 15 seconds left to act
    Markus Golser calls $800
    *** FLOP *** [5s 5d 9c]
    Markus Golser has 15 seconds left to act
    Markus Golser checks
    durrrr bets $1,350
    Markus Golser calls $1,350
    *** TURN *** [5s 5d 9c] [Kc]
    Markus Golser checks
    durrrr checks
    *** RIVER *** [5s 5d 9c Kc] [2c]
    Markus Golser checks
    durrrr bets $3,850
    Markus Golser raises to $15,836.50, and is all in
    durrrr has 15 seconds left to act
    durrrr has requested TIME
    durrrr calls $11,986.50
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Markus Golser shows [3h Qh Kh Qc] two pair, Kings and Fives
    durrrr shows [Qs 4c Ks 7c] a flush, King high
    durrrr wins the pot ($36,772.50) with a flush, King high
    Markus Golser adds $8,000
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $36,773 | Rake $0.50
    Board: [5s 5d 9c Kc 2c]
    Seat 3: Markus Golser (big blind) showed [3h Qh Kh Qc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Fives
    Seat 6: durrrr (small blind) showed [Qs 4c Ks 7c] and won ($36,772.50) with a flush, King high
     
  2. jeremy w jeremy w is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2008 (4/26/2008 7:34pm) in reply to mikeand

    ? seems pretty standard for a HU PLO game, especially since the pot wasnt that big (<100 BB)
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    Apr 26th, 2008 (4/26/2008 7:44pm) in reply to jeremy w

    that call/play is only standard in 1c/2c plo...
     
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    Apr 26th, 2008 (4/26/2008 7:49pm) in reply to teamshizz

    This was definitely a "close your eyes and pray" type of call here by durrr, however the OP is trying to insinuate that this is some sort of magical read/see through your opponents soul kind of call here. I would bet that durrr also made this call with the assumption that he has the losing hand a good majority of the time. So what happens then when the villian shows KK or a bigger flush, do we still see the post?

    I still think its a standard hand that you will see time and time again in HU PLO whether its 200/400 or 1c/2c. Contrary to how you feel about the amount of money on the table, this is a completely standard sized pot and not a very big one at that.
  5. mikeand mikeand is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2008 (4/26/2008 8:18pm) in reply to jeremy w

    LOL @

    "I would bet that durrr also made this call with the assumption that he has the losing hand a good majority of the time."

    You're right. Durrr hates money.
     
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  6. flywiithme flywiithme is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2008 (4/26/2008 8:42pm) in reply to mikeand

    this single hand alone means absolutely nothing...
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    Apr 26th, 2008 (4/26/2008 9:50pm) in reply to mikeand

    LOL @

    Your ignorance and stupidity.

    You can make this call here and have the worst hand more than 55% of the time and still make it a profitable move. So durrr can know that there is actually a greater chance his hand ISNT good here and still make this call profitably. Trust me, his call here wasnt an "I KNOW im good here" move.
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    Apr 26th, 2008 (4/26/2008 9:54pm) in reply to jeremy w

    i think what your failing to take into account is player tendecies/history. your 45% equity determination of durr's hand is arbitrary without this information.
     
  9. Hoobangin Hoobangin is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2008 (4/26/2008 10:00pm) in reply to flywiithme

    This thread is garbage, it's one hand in a HU match, who cares?
     
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    Apr 26th, 2008 (4/26/2008 10:02pm) in reply to flywiithme

    i honestly dont see anything crazy about this hand...
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    Apr 26th, 2008 (4/26/2008 10:08pm) in reply to danimsta

    Well usually when the flop and turn action are check-check then you get some crazy bet-raise river scenario it's not flush over XXXX, but Durrrr is the awesome and I am the suck, so this is probably pretty yawn for him, plus WhoTF is Golster?

    edit:

    plus the flop didnt even get checked, I was kidding before.
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    Apr 26th, 2008 (4/26/2008 10:10pm) in reply to Randers

    Of course, especially since its a HU match. I was simply trying to show that you can know your opponent beats you here more often than not and it can still be a profitable play.

    On a side note, you think durrr KNEW he was good here yet still timebanks it and has to think about the decision before calling? It was by no means a snap call.
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    Apr 26th, 2008 (4/26/2008 10:15pm) in reply to jeremy w

    correct. The decision would be closer if he considers his equity is less than the pot is offering.
     
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    Apr 26th, 2008 (4/26/2008 10:17pm) in reply to mikeand

    dam and theres me thinking he made a call with 77 or something..
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    Apr 26th, 2008 (4/26/2008 10:17pm) in reply to jtown1010

    I think the hands pretty sick. Great call by Durrrr etc etc. Golser is repping a huge hand here... Although I dont know his game at all, and obv. Durrr does. I still dont think this call is close to being "standard". He only beats a bluff.
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    Apr 27th, 2008 (4/27/2008 3:46am) in reply to Alex0r

    Delete this thread please
     
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    Apr 27th, 2008 (4/27/2008 4:08am) in reply to Fletch76

    wooooow what a thuper duper call!
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    Apr 27th, 2008 (4/27/2008 4:33am) in reply to mikeand

    only thing i learned in this thread is that jeremy is a dumbass
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    Apr 27th, 2008 (4/27/2008 6:29am) in reply to mikeand

    An excellent call, but not necessarily a soul read or anything, given Golser's line he's ruled out 99 or 95 and Golser's not checking the turn behind with an unhoused 5 and KK is 3-betting pre. Given these facts, he's only beat by a better flush or 22 (which definitely is out on that flop).

    I don't get the river lead by him here. It seems too big given his hand to be a v-bet and his hand has obvious showdown value. Then again, I don't play HU PLO often (usually 6-max or 9-max). But on a difficulty scale, this call is probably a 6.

    Thoughts on the river lead?
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    Apr 27th, 2008 (4/27/2008 10:23am) in reply to mikeand

    The point of this thread is............?
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