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Earky stage MTT KK vs AA; should I check on the river here?

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  1. nomadicwarrior nomadicwarrior is offline

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    Mar 24th, 2009 (3/24/2009 4:20pm)

    I (Gurner) am dealt KK and my nemesis (in the previous 2 hands immediately before this one his AQ beat my JJ and took a pot of 750, then I took a pot of 650 uncontested after I fired a second bullet after the turn) eclat has AA, it is a very dangerous board by the river, yet his check on the river suggests a weakness and he has not shown any slowplaying or trappy tendancies so I bet 300, which after his call and show of aces I wonder if I should have been content to win what was there. Was I a little too hopeful about getting called with a worse hand here?
    pokerstars Game #26315757126: Tournament #143760381, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/03/24 15:54:19 ET
    Table '143760381 332' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: Arturs888 (1360 in chips)
    Seat 2: AMAFIABOSS (1458 in chips)
    Seat 3: SP.Abbott (2260 in chips)
    Seat 4: Simon_hg (1375 in chips)
    Seat 5: xshuttyx (1390 in chips)
    Seat 6: yidbrad (1485 in chips)
    Seat 7: Gurner (1755 in chips)
    Seat 8: thegosu2 (1292 in chips)
    Seat 9: eclat Royal (1125 in chips)
    eclat Royal: posts small blind 15
    Arturs888: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Gurner [Ks Kd]
    AMAFIABOSS: folds
    SP.Abbott: folds
    Simon_hg: raises 30 to 60
    xshuttyx has timed out
    xshuttyx: folds
    xshuttyx is sitting out
    yidbrad: folds
    Gurner: raises 90 to 150
    thegosu2: folds
    eclat Royal: calls 135
    Arturs888: folds
    Simon_hg: calls 90
    *** FLOP *** [5h 7d 8c]
    eclat Royal: checks
    Simon_hg: checks
    Gurner: bets 180
    eclat Royal: calls 180
    Simon_hg: folds
    *** TURN *** [5h 7d 8c] [Qs]
    xshuttyx has returned
    eclat Royal: checks
    Gurner: bets 270
    eclat Royal: calls 270
    *** RIVER *** [5h 7d 8c Qs] [5d]
    eclat Royal: checks
    Gurner: bets 300
    eclat Royal: calls 300
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Gurner: shows [Ks Kd] (two pair, Kings and Fives)
    eclat Royal: shows [Ah Ad] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
    eclat Royal collected 1980 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1980 | Rake 0
    Board [5h 7d 8c Qs 5d]
    Seat 1: Arturs888 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 2: AMAFIABOSS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: SP.Abbott folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: Simon_hg folded on the Flop
    Seat 5: xshuttyx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: yidbrad folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Gurner showed [Ks Kd] and lost with two pair, Kings and Fives
    Seat 8: thegosu2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: eclat Royal (small blind) showed [Ah Ad] and won (1980) with two pair, Aces and Fives
  2. woertink woertink is offline

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    Mar 25th, 2009 (3/25/2009 12:25am) in reply to nomadicwarrior

    i think he somehow playd the hand worse than you. you need to bet the flop bigger. the turn bigger and get it in pry there.
  3. srooney3 srooney3 is offline

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    Mar 25th, 2009 (3/25/2009 1:05pm) in reply to nomadicwarrior

    I agree with the above poster. I would have been broke on this hand because I would be betting much harder. I woulda put up a 2/3 bet on the flop. Then a 1/2 or so pot bet on the turn and then pushed on the river. He has AA? O well. nh and let's try again. I understand that it is only 15/30 but with a hand like that and a board that isn't really too scary with the preflop play that preceded it, I'm 100% cool with getting it all in on that flop, turn, and river.
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