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Early 15kgtd Deepstack - WWYD here?

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  1. WarGawd WarGawd is offline

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    Jul 7th, 2010 (7/7/2010 1:05am)

    Brazilian villain is 42/24/3 over 60 hands so far in this $10 tourney....I can def fold and have lots to work with, but given his stats and level of activity, I feel like I might even have him dominated a fair bit. WWYD?

    Full Tilt Poker Game #22133104271: Super Stack $15K Guarantee (170752417), Table 7 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:53:51 ET - 2010/07/06
    Seat 1: Poooka21 (14,270)
    Seat 2: earthling351 (4,447)
    Seat 3: John Duffey (4,825)
    Seat 4: TakerrDown (5,000)
    Seat 5: jewishjew (5,935)
    Seat 6: BaaaadKarma (5,070)
    Seat 7: ShIfTyWoG (5,130)
    Seat 8: nenevildes (5,748)
    Seat 9: MiroN38 (4,515)
    BaaaadKarma posts the small blind of 30
    ShIfTyWoG posts the big blind of 60
    The button is in seat #5
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to BaaaadKarma [Js Jh]
    nenevildes has 15 seconds left to act
    nenevildes raises to 180
    MiroN38 folds
    Poooka21 folds
    earthling351 folds
    John Duffey folds
    jewishjew folds
    BaaaadKarma has 15 seconds left to act
    BaaaadKarma raises to 525
    ShIfTyWoG folds
    nenevildes has 15 seconds left to act
    nenevildes raises to 1,635
    BaaaadKarma has 15 seconds left to act and ???

    Appreciate any inputs
    Thx
  2. hiroshi_87 hiroshi_87 is offline

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    Jul 7th, 2010 (7/7/2010 1:18am) in reply to WarGawd

    I don't know if I'm 3 betting JJ here 90 bigs deep, I'd probably just look the villain up, and re-evaluate later streets. You can take him for a couple streets of value when his AQ or AK misses, and he gets married to the hand and won't release it when the flop comes down 9 high.

    You're probably racing or dominated here... I think you can find better spots. I don't really like flipping this early, esp. in a deepstack tourney.
  3. JokersOnYou JokersOnYou is offline

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    Jul 7th, 2010 (7/7/2010 1:20am) in reply to WarGawd

    Stick to turbos not deepstacks, that's the best advice I can give you.
     
  4. Superleggera Superleggera is online now

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    Jul 7th, 2010 (7/7/2010 1:31am) in reply to JokersOnYou

    Don't see why you're 3betting here especially vs an active villain. I'd flat pre and go from there, knowing that my hand is well-disguised. If flop comes AKx then it makes your decision that much easier if you're bet into. On any low flop I'm happily getting it in, and if you're coolered then just move on to the next tourney.
  5. JokersOnYou JokersOnYou is offline

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    Jul 7th, 2010 (7/7/2010 1:58am) in reply to Superleggera

     
    Originally Posted by Superleggera View Post

    Don't see why you're 3betting here especially vs an active villain. I'd flat pre and go from there, knowing that my hand is well-disguised. If flop comes AKx then it makes your decision that much easier if you're bet into. On any low flop I'm happily getting it in, and if you're coolered then just move on to the next tourney.



    THIS IS A DEEPSTACK FOLKS, not a turbo. Maybe you should just stick to turbos too.
     
  6. WarGawd WarGawd is offline

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    Jul 7th, 2010 (7/7/2010 2:38am) in reply to JokersOnYou

     
    Originally Posted by JokersOnYou View Post

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    THIS IS A DEEPSTACK FOLKS, not a turbo. Maybe you should just stick to turbos too.

    Just curious if you actually play these Jokers. Reason I ask is because there are all sorts of examples of play like the following in the early stages of these, and you'd be a fool not to take advantage of the opportunities when they present themselves IMO.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #22131980995: Super Stack $15K Guarantee (170752417), Table 7 - 10/20 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:01:00 ET - 2010/07/06
    Seat 1: Poooka21 (5,000)
    Seat 3: hagarthorrible (5,000)
    Seat 4: LaidBackAl (5,000)
    Seat 5: jewishjew (5,000)
    Seat 6: BaaaadKarma (5,000)
    Seat 7: stemtwister (5,000)
    Seat 8: nenevildes (5,000)
    Seat 9: milkybarbiy (5,000)
    Poooka21 posts the small blind of 10
    hagarthorrible posts the big blind of 20
    The button is in seat #9
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to BaaaadKarma [Ah 7h]
    LaidBackAl has 15 seconds left to act
    LaidBackAl calls 20
    jewishjew calls 20
    ThePro314 sits down
    BaaaadKarma calls 20
    stemtwister folds
    nenevildes folds
    milkybarbiy raises to 130
    Poooka21 has 15 seconds left to act
    Poooka21 raises to 5,000, and is all in
    hagarthorrible folds
    LaidBackAl has 15 seconds left to act
    LaidBackAl calls 4,980, and is all in
    jewishjew folds
    BaaaadKarma folds
    milkybarbiy folds
    Poooka21 shows [Kh Kc]
    LaidBackAl shows [Js Ts]
    Poooka21: nice
    *** FLOP *** [Qs 6h Jd]
    BaaaadKarma: lol 250 BB shoves 1st hand morons
    *** TURN *** [Qs 6h Jd] [4c]
    *** RIVER *** [Qs 6h Jd 4c] [9c]
    Poooka21 shows a pair of Kings
    LaidBackAl shows a pair of Jacks
    Poooka21 wins the pot (10,190) with a pair of Kings
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 10,190 | Rake 0
    Board: [Qs 6h Jd 4c 9c]
    Seat 1: Poooka21 (small blind) showed [Kh Kc] and won (10,190) with a pair of Kings
    Seat 3: hagarthorrible (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 4: LaidBackAl showed [Js Ts] and lost with a pair of Jacks
    Seat 5: jewishjew folded before the Flop
    Seat 6: BaaaadKarma folded before the Flop
    Seat 7: stemtwister didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: nenevildes didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 9: milkybarbiy (button) folded before the Flop

    So the reason I 3-bet with JJ from the SB is because the villain had been very active, really couldnt put him on anything so tight as QQ+, AQs+. AKo...I wouldnt have been surprised at all to see him with TJs or QJs. And since I had only played a few of those 60 hands I expected a 3-bet from me when I'd be OOP post flop had to look strong to him, and realllly expected a fold there. My mistake was in assessing that with that image when villain 4-bets me he has a really big hand and I have an easy fold. Oh well...next time
    Edited By: WarGawd Jul 7th, 2010 at 02:40 AM
    Reason: correct typos
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  7. TheVillageGrinder TheVillageGrinder is offline

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    Jul 7th, 2010 (7/7/2010 6:53am) in reply to WarGawd

    When you have a read that specific, then yes, you three bet and get it in.
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