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early in the NHG. what hand does rdcrsn have?

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  1. Big Huni Big Huni is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2009 (8/3/2009 9:19pm)

    i know that this is probably not that hard of a fold here vs rdcrsn, but I just want to know what hand here u think hes just flat calling both pre and the flop with and then betting huge on the turn?

    pokerstars Game #31218491888: Tournament #183611830, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/08/03 21:02:22 ET
    Table '183611830 49' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: jayzmo (3000 in chips)
    Seat 2: Big Huni (2920 in chips)
    Seat 3: randomcrayon (3000 in chips)
    Seat 4: dubbeemin (2990 in chips)
    Seat 5: romiazil (3080 in chips)
    Seat 6: jstockton#10 (3000 in chips)
    Seat 7: rdcrsn (3000 in chips)
    Seat 8: SPIN31 (3000 in chips)
    Seat 9: bigdogpckt5s (3030 in chips)
    romiazil: posts small blind 10
    jstockton#10: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Big Huni [As Ad]
    rdcrsn: raises 40 to 60
    SPIN31: folds
    bigdogpckt5s: folds
    jayzmo: folds
    Big Huni: raises 130 to 190
    randomcrayon: folds
    dubbeemin: folds
    romiazil: calls 180
    jstockton#10: folds
    rdcrsn: calls 130
    *** FLOP *** [5s Ks Qc]
    romiazil: checks
    rdcrsn: checks
    Big Huni: bets 350
    romiazil: calls 350
    rdcrsn: calls 350
    *** TURN *** [5s Ks Qc] [Tc]
    romiazil: checks
    rdcrsn: bets 1200
    Big Huni: folds
    romiazil: folds
    Uncalled bet (1200) returned to rdcrsn
    rdcrsn collected 1640 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1640 | Rake 0
    Board [5s Ks Qc Tc]
    Seat 1: jayzmo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Big Huni folded on the Turn
    Seat 3: randomcrayon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: dubbeemin (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: romiazil (small blind) folded on the Turn
    Seat 6: jstockton#10 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: rdcrsn collected (1640)
    Seat 8: SPIN31 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: bigdogpckt5s folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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  2. moorman1 moorman1 is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2009 (8/3/2009 9:39pm) in reply to Big Huni

    I wouldn't reraise preflop, or bet the flop, but as played i'd fold the turn very very quickly
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  3. The Lab Rat The Lab Rat is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2009 (8/3/2009 11:17pm) in reply to Big Huni

    really looks like a set

    qq?
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  4. Frictionless Frictionless is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2009 (8/3/2009 11:27pm) in reply to The Lab Rat

     
    Originally Posted by francis116 View Post

    really looks like a set

    qq?

    Don't know his early game too much, but doubt he's flatting QQ on that board the way action had gone down?
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    Aug 3rd, 2009 (8/3/2009 11:29pm) in reply to Frictionless

    Is something like a combo draw in his range pretty often? Something like AsJs/Js9s? Obviously he'd be getting the right odds to call both pre and on the flop. If so, it makes sense for him to lead that turn if he has someone on a set or AA.
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    Aug 3rd, 2009 (8/3/2009 11:31pm) in reply to Big Huni

    well bottom line is I dont think aces are good here vs russell. gf
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  7. pikappraider78 pikappraider78 is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2009 (8/3/2009 11:46pm) in reply to The Lab Rat

    doubt its a set, i feel like he raises this flop after you 3 bet pre. is j9ss a possibility?? dno if hed call the 3 bet pre against someone who isnt going to stack off with 1 pair.
     
  8. rock3656 rock3656 is offline

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    Aug 4th, 2009 (8/4/2009 12:16am) in reply to pikappraider78

    if ur gonna raise pre shuv as played chk flop u have As...
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  9. Zota15 Zota15 is offline

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    Aug 4th, 2009 (8/4/2009 12:41am) in reply to rock3656

     
    Originally Posted by rock3656 View Post

    if ur gonna raise pre shuv as played chk flop u have As...

    shove 150 BBs?
  10. Big Huni Big Huni is offline

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    Aug 4th, 2009 (8/4/2009 7:25pm) in reply to moorman1

     
    Originally Posted by moorman1 View Post

    I wouldn't reraise preflop, or bet the flop, but as played i'd fold the turn very very quickly

    Can you explain your reasoning behind this? Why would you not raise preflop, just curious?
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  11. jalman1 jalman1 is offline

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    Aug 4th, 2009 (8/4/2009 7:30pm) in reply to Big Huni

    prolly cuz it narrows ur range down to like 2-3 hands and playing that deep makes u rather exploitable (even if u have position agianst a thinking player) when ur hand range is that narrow. Thats why flatting here is correct (not against some but against rdcrsn) becuz u will be much harder to play against when u can have many more hands. Rdcrsn should call kind of light here preflop if he knows u have QQ AK+ with lots of combo hands hoping ull stack off on certain flops
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  12. ronkend ronkend is offline

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    Aug 4th, 2009 (8/4/2009 7:34pm) in reply to Big Huni

     
    Originally Posted by Big Huni View Post

     
    Originally Posted by moorman1 View Post

    I wouldn't reraise preflop, or bet the flop, but as played i'd fold the turn very very quickly

    Can you explain your reasoning behind this? Why would you not raise preflop, just curious?

    Cuz you turn your hand face up obv. Theres like 2 hands you r/r with.
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    Aug 4th, 2009 (8/4/2009 10:43pm) in reply to Big Huni

    rr v super good tricky player is exploitable bc u turn ur hand face up and he can play perfectly against ur range. i think moorman says dont bet flop bc ur hand is either AA or AK and rdc can play optimally vs that range so cbets dont really have that much value. If you want to rr AA here you also have to raise random suited connectors adn stuff enough that regs know you can rr light in early levels of a tourney
     
  14. bbbbb33 bbbbb33 is offline

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    Aug 4th, 2009 (8/4/2009 10:53pm) in reply to dmschec

    against russ this is a super easy fold (unless there is some pertinant history)... hes never betting the turn with AK... he either has KKK or QQQ 99.99% to bet that turn imo. plus im pretty sure hes not a fan of playing dusty hands oop and likes to flat early.
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  15. Big Huni Big Huni is offline

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    Aug 6th, 2009 (8/6/2009 7:03am) in reply to bbbbb33

    so what do you think he has here by the way the hand was played? It just seems strange all the way around the way it was played
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