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early spot w/ small fullhouse on river

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  1. qjuice14 qjuice14 is offline

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    Aug 31st, 2008 (8/31/2008 3:38pm)

    very early in the 80k on stars. never played villain before today. This is my 2nd hand played so far in the tournament, the first was against villain this trip. I opened 3x from button, he called from small blind. flop was all low cards, he checked, i continued and he called. turn was a king, he checked, I bet 2/3rd of pot and he folded.

    pokerstars Game #20043193822: Tournament #103652965, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/08/31 - 15:09:45 (ET)
    Table '103652965 27' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: crikreef (2980 in chips)
    Seat 2: Yankees31 (3000 in chips)
    Seat 3: qjuice14 (3140 in chips)
    Seat 4: 30DAYS (2680 in chips)
    Seat 6: 12eeDe12 (3060 in chips)
    Seat 7: dirtay8 (2880 in chips)
    Seat 8: UlvedaL (3130 in chips)
    Seat 9: D1rtyR1v3r (3130 in chips)
    crikreef: posts small blind 10
    Yankees31: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to qjuice14 [5s 5h]
    qjuice14: calls 20
    30DAYS: raises 60 to 80
    12eeDe12: folds
    dirtay8: folds
    UlvedaL: folds
    D1rtyR1v3r: folds
    crikreef: folds
    Yankees31: calls 60
    qjuice14: calls 60
    *** FLOP *** [Jc 4d Jd]
    Yankees31: checks
    qjuice14: checks
    30DAYS: checks
    *** TURN *** [Jc 4d Jd] [6h]
    Yankees31: checks
    qjuice14: bets 100
    30DAYS: calls 100
    Yankees31: folds
    *** RIVER *** [Jc 4d Jd 6h] [5c]
    qjuice14: bets 300
    30DAYS: raises 700 to 1000
    qjuice14 ???

    I know a lot of times when the action picks up fast on the river its best to keep the pots small with small sets/fh's. But there isn't a big range that has me beat that makes sense by the way that he played this.

    Is this a spot where I should Jam or call?
     
  2. deezy5821 deezy5821 is offline

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    Aug 31st, 2008 (8/31/2008 3:40pm) in reply to qjuice14

    Jam, he calls and shows QJ J10
     
  3. Kiba52 Kiba52 is offline

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    Aug 31st, 2008 (8/31/2008 4:37pm) in reply to qjuice14

    looks like it could be JJ but u still need to shove for value
  4. qjuice14 qjuice14 is offline

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    Aug 31st, 2008 (8/31/2008 6:09pm) in reply to Kiba52

     
    Originally Posted by Kiba52 View Post

    looks like it could be JJ but u still need to shove for value

    Not saying you are wrong at all, AJ i'm sure shows up from time to time, but KJ> seems less likely. Against a competent player, i'm not getting value out of QQ+ (which i think is a horrible line with an overpair), so am I shoving for value just against a random who plays less logically?

    To be honest, the line looks like monster or bluff to me weighted heavily with bluff, so how often does a lesser hand take this line?
     
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  5. jkfranklin jkfranklin is offline

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    Aug 31st, 2008 (8/31/2008 6:45pm) in reply to qjuice14

    i think the villian narrowed it down that you didnt have a 4 so i would think he has aj qj or kj.
  6. qjuice14 qjuice14 is offline

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    Aug 31st, 2008 (8/31/2008 6:57pm) in reply to jkfranklin

    ^^ ?
     
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  7. jkfranklin jkfranklin is offline

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    Aug 31st, 2008 (8/31/2008 7:02pm) in reply to qjuice14

    ok i'm saying villian has aj there?

    Either way im making the call.
  8. stevie444 stevie444 is offline

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    Aug 31st, 2008 (8/31/2008 7:13pm) in reply to qjuice14

    Shove
    91 12
  9. Jedi Phil Ivey Jedi Phil Ivey is offline

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    Aug 31st, 2008 (8/31/2008 7:37pm) in reply to qjuice14

    Shove
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    Aug 31st, 2008 (8/31/2008 7:49pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    quentin jammer
     
  11. preezie preezie is offline

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    Aug 31st, 2008 (8/31/2008 7:50pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    I'd shove, the strength of ur hand is pretty hidden and it seems he tried to slow play his trips with just flatting on the flop.. Its hard to see him have you beat unless he has JJ (puke) .. maybe he had something dirty like 44 :P
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