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  1. charpley charpley is offline

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    Oct 19th, 2008 (10/19/2008 4:45pm)

    pokerstars Game #21329110622: Tournament #113292642, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (25/50) - 2008/10/19 16:39:41 ET
    Table '113292642 575' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: kattkroken (10000 in chips)
    Seat 2: Jayross (9825 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 3: Shotgun747 (9950 in chips)
    Seat 6: charpley (10150 in chips)
    Seat 7: Skibunny5 (9850 in chips)
    Seat 8: KCBuck78 (9775 in chips)
    Seat 9: Dantes_11 (10450 in chips)
    Shotgun747: posts small blind 25
    charpley: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to charpley [Qc Qs]
    Skibunny5: raises 100 to 150
    KCBuck78: folds
    Dantes_11: folds
    kattkroken: folds
    Jayross: folds
    Shotgun747: calls 125
    charpley: calls 100
    *** FLOP *** [4s 3d Jh]
    Shotgun747: checks
    charpley: bets 250
    Skibunny5: raises 500 to 750
    Shotgun747: folds
    charpley: calls 500
    *** TURN *** [4s 3d Jh] [9h]
    charpley: checks
    Skibunny5: bets 1000
    charpley: calls 1000
    *** RIVER *** [4s 3d Jh 9h] [4d]
    charpley: bets 1200
    Skibunny5: raises 6750 to 7950 and is all-in
  2. People_Mover People_Mover is offline

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    Oct 19th, 2008 (10/19/2008 4:49pm) in reply to charpley

    i think u misplayed every street
     
  3. woertink woertink is offline

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    Oct 19th, 2008 (10/19/2008 4:49pm) in reply to charpley

    the way you played it id DB him and call if hes awful, fold if hes good.

    however u should have re-raised pre and played the hand from there.
  4. charpley charpley is offline

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    Oct 19th, 2008 (10/19/2008 6:18pm) in reply to People_Mover

    I misplayed every street?? how the hell am I going to get 3 streets of value against a worse preflop hand? I have very little information in this hand.
    I guess you want to get all of your chips in on the flop or the turn.
    Oh and BTW I wasn't trapping. On the turn I got stuck...pretty badly.
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    Oct 19th, 2008 (10/19/2008 6:22pm) in reply to charpley

    What does he play on every street this way that you can beat? You're just praying he's got A-J and no clue how to play deep-stacked.

    But if you're praying he's got A-J, you 3-bet the flop rather than calling, because he's not getting away from TPTK. If you're not convinced he's got A-J, you don't call the turn. If you're not convinced he's got A-J, there's no way in hell you should be leading out on the river...and you can't call the shove.
     
  6. therickbol therickbol is offline

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    Oct 19th, 2008 (10/19/2008 6:28pm) in reply to charpley

    If his results are poor then he could easily be overplaying AJ like a lot of weak players would in that spot. Especially since he would take your chk-call on the turn as weakness. If he is a player with good results then I think a set of J's is possible. I guess AA/KK are also possible, but I dont know that they would shove the river with AA/KK.
  7. therickbol therickbol is offline

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    Oct 19th, 2008 (10/19/2008 6:30pm) in reply to grapsfan

     
    Originally Posted by grapsfan View Post

    What does he play on every street this way that you can beat? You're just praying he's got A-J and no clue how to play deep-stacked.

    But if you're praying he's got A-J, you 3-bet the flop rather than calling, because he's not getting away from TPTK. If you're not convinced he's got A-J, you don't call the turn. If you're not convinced he's got A-J, there's no way in hell you should be leading out on the river...and you can't call the shove.

    I think that river advice is solid. If you are not able to call a reraise then dont lead out on the rvr. Simply chk-call if he bets.
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    Oct 19th, 2008 (10/19/2008 6:37pm) in reply to therickbol

    i have no problem flatting pre. you get much more value out of lower pairs and AJ, etc. if you're going ot lead the flop, i'm pretty much check/calling turn and check/calling river. i mean...your river bet is what was really the worst part of this hand. it makes no sense at all and is awful
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  9. charpley charpley is offline

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    Oct 19th, 2008 (10/19/2008 6:37pm) in reply to grapsfan

    Graps:
    I have no info on how he plays. And my lead on the river was terrible I know this. I thought i might get a flat from QJ KJ J10. But after thinking about the hand he couldn't have had those hands given the way he bet the flop and turn. This hand was a mess and I'm pretty upset at how I played it. Freakin disaster.
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    Oct 19th, 2008 (10/19/2008 6:52pm) in reply to Gags30

    I know I butchered this hand the whole way. Thanks everyone for your input. And I know the river bet was god awful. It made no sense.
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