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  1. TheEngineer TheEngineer is offline Rich Muny - PPA Board VP

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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 4:59pm)

    Great job everyone! We won one here. Check out http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cf...s-000002941027 , and please digg at http://digg.com/politics/GOP_Platfor...ng_Prohibition

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    MINNEAPOLIS — The Republican Platform Committee stripped a prohibition of Internet gambling from its draft platform, as part of an effort to appeal to the broadest possible constituency.

    The passage had been a part of the last two platforms, and was opposed by virtual poker players. Contentious provisions could still be added by amendment to the platform.

    “We can use this to make the tent bigger,” Sen. Richard M. Burr , R-N.C., and co-chairman of the platform committee, said of the compressed document.

    The draft’s shortening from nearly 100 pages represents a victory for the Poker Players Alliance, a group that has lobbied to legalize and regulate Internet gambling. The million-member group has spent $1.2 million during the first half of 2008 and members have contributed more than $350,000 to candidates this election year.

    “This is a small victory in our determined effort to educate both sides of the aisle that there is a true constituency in America that values its Internet freedoms,” said John Pappas, the alliance’s executive director.

    But while prominent Democrats have sponsored legislation to regulate Internet gambling, Republicans have led opposition that kept the bills bottled up in subcommittee.

    Poker players filed Internet comments urging Republicans to drop their platform opposition to virtual gambling.

    “My point is simple. Is the Republican party no longer the party of personal freedom and individual responsibility?” wrote Greg Raymer, a professional player who won the 2004 World Series of Poker. “Why has this party, that used to protect my rights, now become the party that wants to create a Nanny-state?”............
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  2. YouAreWet YouAreWet is offline

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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 5:01pm) in reply to TheEngineer

    first
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 5:09pm) in reply to TheEngineer

    Great news!! Thank you Engineer for your contribution on these boards towards these issues.
     
  4. Cmoney3 Cmoney3 is offline

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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 5:11pm) in reply to mhoddi

    2nd what mhoddi says, thank you engineer for all your hard work
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 5:12pm) in reply to TheEngineer

    Awesome news! Good work by everyone and thanks for all you've done in particular, TheEngineer
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 5:13pm) in reply to TheEngineer

    You, sir, are the kind of person that PocketFives and the entire poker community needs more of. Well done.
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 5:27pm) in reply to TheEngineer

    Awesome news. Maybe eventually my nanny-state, Louisiana, will get less stupid.
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 5:30pm) in reply to TheEngineer

    Sorry to rain on your parade but the platform is rarely anything more than a symbolic gesture. The Presidential nominee rarely pays attention to it.

    I was a lifelong Republican and while I hope this gives pause for thought for some republicans unfortunately I do not believe this will stop the conviction of the moral right from continuing to push their family values agenda and continue to infringe on our personal freedoms.

    I will continue to support The Engineer, PPA and their efforts.

    Good luck
     
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 5:35pm) in reply to TheEngineer

    WOOOT
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 5:39pm) in reply to TheEngineer

    Digg it
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 5:40pm) in reply to TheEngineer

    <3 TheEngineer keep up the great work and keep informing us of any help you need.
  12. TheEngineer TheEngineer is offline Rich Muny - PPA Board VP

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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 5:45pm) in reply to traction

     
    Originally Posted by traction View Post

    Sorry to rain on your parade but the platform is rarely anything more than a symbolic gesture. The Presidential nominee rarely pays attention to it.

    I was a lifelong Republican and while I hope this gives pause for thought for some republicans unfortunately I do not believe this will stop the conviction of the moral right from continuing to push their family values agenda and continue to infringe on our personal freedoms.

    I will continue to support The Engineer, PPA and their efforts.

    Good luck

    We're a whole lot better without it in the platform than we were with it in there. It at least stops the party from codifying opposition to us. It also represents a victory over the nanny-staters, which we'll take any day.

    No, of course this won't slow down the religious right, but it will help us with the moderates. It also shows that the party is realizing that bragging about opposing us isn't as good politically as they once thought it was. This is all movement in the right direction. :-)

    Thanks for your continued support. We still have a long road ahead.
     
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  13. TheEngineer TheEngineer is offline Rich Muny - PPA Board VP

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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 5:47pm) in reply to zander

     
    Originally Posted by zander View Post

    You, sir, are the kind of person that PocketFives and the entire poker community needs more of. Well done.

    Thanks!

    Everyone: I appreciate all the kind words. I'm glad we all pitched in together and got this done!
     
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 5:52pm) in reply to TheEngineer

    This is excellent news!

    Let's not forget that Republicans are generally our biggest foes, though. If playing online poker is important to you, then do not vote Republican (unless you are voting for Ron Paul or one of the select few that voted for HR 5767)
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 5:59pm) in reply to Jennifear

    1 time leeeeeeeeee!
  16. TheEngineer TheEngineer is offline Rich Muny - PPA Board VP

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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 7:01pm) in reply to SloHand

    The full committee just reinserted the ban language. The article in the OP was updated to reflect the change. Looks like the social cons hate freedom and liberty.
     
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 7:13pm) in reply to SloHand

    I think they just voted to put it back in.....anyone confirm?
     
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 7:24pm) in reply to rocksolid124

     
    Originally Posted by rocksolid124 View Post

    Awesome news. Maybe eventually my nanny-state, Louisiana, will get less stupid.

    You know this won't happen until about 100000 people figure out how to get kickbacks...

    Great news, great work Rich!

    Kajun $endz
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 7:40pm) in reply to TheEngineer

    That got my hopes up... [:(]

    This something that we can write to newspapers about. For example: "while the democrats were entertaining their supporters, the Republicans were alienating fiscal conservatives and denying Americans personal freedom. The Republican party seems to think that people cannot be trusted with their own money and continued a ban on internet poker in their party platform."
    or "<span id="printableContent">Sen. Richard M. Burr , R-N.C. </span><span id="printableContent">said 'We can use this to make the tent bigger,' of dropping a ban of internet poker from their party platform. Social conservatives decided the tent was big enough and hours later reinstated the language which denies Americans personal freedoms in their own homes. If Republicans want to create a nanny-state where people are not allowed to control their own money in their own homes I will not stand inside their tent, along with millions of other poker players."
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 8:01pm) in reply to TheEngineer

    I think this went perfectly. Some people are under the impression that the republicans are actually the same as the democrats on this issue, and this really crystallizes that they're not. If they had taken out the language it just would have ended up fooling people into thinking they were going to stop attacking online poker.
     
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 8:31pm) in reply to heynow21

    ^^^ This
  22. TheEngineer TheEngineer is offline Rich Muny - PPA Board VP

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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 9:23pm) in reply to blackstar74

    FoF is gloating! We're not going to just sit back, are we?:

    www.citizenlink.org/content/A000008051.cfm

    <h1>Good News: GOP Platform Committee Refuses to Bow to Gambling Industry</h1>

    The Republican Platform Committee retained a prohibition of Internet gambling in its draft platform, which will be approved at next week's GOP convention.

    The language, which had been a part of the last two platforms, includes the following: “Millions of Americans suffer from problem or pathological gambling that can destroy families. We support the law prohibiting gambling over the Internet or in student athletics by student athletes who are participating in competitive sports.”

    Chad Hills, analyst for gambling research and policy at Focus on the Family Action, said: "Today, those afflicted by gambling addiction and families with children can be grateful for the great delegates who kept Internet gambling prohibition as part of the GOP platform."
     
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  23. TheEngineer TheEngineer is offline Rich Muny - PPA Board VP

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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 10:51pm) in reply to TheEngineer

    bump
     
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 11:10pm) in reply to TheEngineer

    what a flip-flop. equivalent to a slow roll?
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 11:19pm) in reply to rexmundi1337

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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 11:27pm) in reply to Jennifear

     
    Originally Posted by Jennifear View Post

    This is excellent news!

    Let's not forget that Republicans are generally our biggest foes, though. If playing online poker is important to you, then do not vote Republican (unless you are voting for Ron Paul or one of the select few that voted for HR 5767)

    Yes, because online poker is what should be considered when voting for a president. Well said.
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 11:45pm) in reply to LVpokerdealer

     
    Originally Posted by LVpokerdealer View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Jennifear View Post

    This is excellent news!

    Let's not forget that Republicans are generally our biggest foes, though. If playing online poker is important to you, then do not vote Republican (unless you are voting for Ron Paul or one of the select few that voted for HR 5767)

    Yes, because online poker is what should be considered when voting for a president. Well said.

    Go clog off topic with your worthless opinion about what we should care about when voting.
     
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 11:49pm) in reply to LVpokerdealer

     
    Originally Posted by LVpokerdealer View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Jennifear View Post

    This is excellent news!

    Let's not forget that Republicans are generally our biggest foes, though. If playing online poker is important to you, then do not vote Republican (unless you are voting for Ron Paul or one of the select few that voted for HR 5767)

    Yes, because online poker is what should be considered when voting for a president. Well said.

    Well, that plus the dems absolutely PWN the repubs on their stance on nearly every other issue as well

    Bottom line: the repubs need to get the fuck out of our personal freedoms and online poker is only one glaring example of that
  29. TheEngineer TheEngineer is offline Rich Muny - PPA Board VP

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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 11:53pm) in reply to LVpokerdealer

     
    Originally Posted by LVpokerdealer View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Jennifear View Post

    This is excellent news!

    Let's not forget that Republicans are generally our biggest foes, though. If playing online poker is important to you, then do not vote Republican (unless you are voting for Ron Paul or one of the select few that voted for HR 5767)

    Yes, because online poker is what should be considered when voting for a president. Well said.

    Yes, it is. Why should we not vote for freedom if we care about it? Our opponents vote on these issues.
     
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 11:55pm) in reply to TheEngineer

     
    Originally Posted by TheEngineer View Post

     
    Originally Posted by LVpokerdealer View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Jennifear View Post

    This is excellent news!

    Let's not forget that Republicans are generally our biggest foes, though. If playing online poker is important to you, then do not vote Republican (unless you are voting for Ron Paul or one of the select few that voted for HR 5767)

    Yes, because online poker is what should be considered when voting for a president. Well said.

    Yes, it is. Why should we not vote for freedom if we care about it? Our opponents vote on these issues.

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