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OK, I want to start with a hand history, then I'll give you my backround...
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<TABLE class=info cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=padding><TH align=left>Hand Number</TH><TD>807092778</TD></TR><TR class=padding><TH align=left>Start Date</TH><TD>2007-07-15 02:21:42.0</TD></TR><TR class=padding><TH align=left>End Date</TH><TD>2007-07-15 02:22:22.0</TD></TR><TR class=padding><TH align=left>Pot Size</TH><TD>$16,362.16</TD></TR><TR class=padding><TH align=left>Rake</TH><TD>$0.00</TD></TR><TR class=padding><TH align=left>Game Type</TH><TD>Hold'Em</TD></TR><TR class=padding><TH align=left>Play Mode</TH><TD>Real</TD></TR><TR class=padding><TH align=left>Table Name</TH><TD>$11,000 Guaranteed </TD></TR><TR class=padding><TH align=left>Structure</TH><TD>NL</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left>Community Cards</H> <TD>5
J
3
8
K
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <H2>Player Information</H2> <TABLE class=info cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR class=headings><TH>Screen
Name</TH><TH>Seat
Position</TH><TH>Cards
Dealt</TH><TH>Start/End
Amount</TH><TH>Total
Bet</TH><TH>Win/Loss
Amount</TH></TR><TR class=results><TD>ruru52 </TD><TD>1 </TD><TD>A
K
</TD><TD>$19,900.00/$28,906.08 </TD><TD>$7,356.08 </TD><TD>$9,006.08 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>portus2004 </TD><TD>2 </TD><TD></TD><TD>$9,583.92/$8,733.92 </TD><TD>$850.00 </TD><TD>$-850.00 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>doinmax </TD><TD>3 </TD><TD></TD><TD>$6,946.74/$6,896.74 </TD><TD>$50.00 </TD><TD>$-50.00 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>Just for Fun </TD><TD>5 </TD><TD>9
8
</TD><TD>$7,356.08/$0.00 </TD><TD>$7,356.08 </TD><TD>$-7,356.08 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>barderer </TD><TD>6 </TD><TD></TD><TD>$5,203.48/$5,153.48 </TD><TD>$50.00 </TD><TD>$-50.00 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>conetwister </TD><TD>7 </TD><TD></TD><TD>$3,310.00/$3,060.00 </TD><TD>$250.00 </TD><TD>$-250.00 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>OMG_AA </TD><TD>9 </TD><TD></TD><TD>$12,094.78/$11,644.78 </TD><TD>$450.00 </TD><TD>$-450.00 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <H2>Hand Actions</H2> <TABLE class=info cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR class=headings><TH>Player</TH><TH>Action</TH><TH>Action Data</TH><TH>Timestamp</TH></TR><TR class=results><TD>barderer </TD><TD>Ante </TD><TD>$ 50.00 </TD><TD>02:21:42 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>conetwister </TD><TD>Ante </TD><TD>$ 50.00 </TD><TD>02:21:42 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>OMG_AA </TD><TD>Ante </TD><TD>$ 50.00 </TD><TD>02:21:42 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>ruru52 </TD><TD>Ante </TD><TD>$ 50.00 </TD><TD>02:21:42 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>portus2004 </TD><TD>Ante </TD><TD>$ 50.00 </TD><TD>02:21:42 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>doinmax </TD><TD>Ante </TD><TD>$ 50.00 </TD><TD>02:21:42 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>Just for Fun </TD><TD>Ante </TD><TD>$ 50.00 </TD><TD>02:21:42 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>barderer </TD><TD>Set dealer/Bring in spot </TD><TD>6 </TD><TD>02:21:42 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>conetwister </TD><TD>Ante/Small blind </TD><TD>$ 200.00 </TD><TD>02:21:42 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>OMG_AA </TD><TD>Big blind/Bring in </TD><TD>$ 400.00 </TD><TD>02:21:42 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>ruru52 </TD><TD>Card dealt to a spot </TD><TD>A
K
</TD><TD>02:21:42 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>portus2004 </TD><TD>Card dealt to a spot </TD><TD></TD><TD>02:21:42 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>doinmax </TD><TD>Card dealt to a spot </TD><TD></TD><TD>02:21:42 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>Just for Fun </TD><TD>Card dealt to a spot </TD><TD>9
8
</TD><TD>02:21:42 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>barderer </TD><TD>Card dealt to a spot </TD><TD></TD><TD>02:21:42 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>conetwister </TD><TD>Card dealt to a spot </TD><TD></TD><TD>02:21:42 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>OMG_AA </TD><TD>Card dealt to a spot </TD><TD></TD><TD>02:21:42 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>ruru52 </TD><TD>Raise </TD><TD>$ 800.00 </TD><TD>02:21:54 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>portus2004 </TD><TD>Call </TD><TD>$ 800.00 </TD><TD>02:21:57 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>doinmax </TD><TD>Fold </TD><TD>$ 50.00 </TD><TD>02:21:58 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>Just for Fun </TD><TD>All-in </TD><TD>$ 7,306.08 </TD><TD>02:22:04 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>barderer </TD><TD>Fold </TD><TD>$ 50.00 </TD><TD>02:22:04 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>conetwister </TD><TD>Fold </TD><TD>$ 250.00 </TD><TD>02:22:06 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>OMG_AA </TD><TD>Fold </TD><TD>$ 450.00 </TD><TD>02:22:07 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>ruru52 </TD><TD>Call </TD><TD>$ 6,506.08 </TD><TD>02:22:13 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>portus2004 </TD><TD>Fold </TD><TD>$ 850.00 </TD><TD>02:22:13 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD></TD><TD>Betting round completed </TD><TD>Last active pot = $0.00
Side pot 5 = $16,362.16 </TD><TD>02:22:15 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD></TD><TD>Card dealt to table </TD><TD>5
J
3
</TD><TD>02:22:15 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD></TD><TD>Betting round completed </TD><TD>Last active pot = $0.00
Side pot 5 = $16,362.16 </TD><TD>02:22:18 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD></TD><TD>Card dealt to table </TD><TD>8
</TD><TD>02:22:18 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD></TD><TD>Betting round completed </TD><TD>Last active pot = $0.00
Side pot 5 = $16,362.16 </TD><TD>02:22:20 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD></TD><TD>Card dealt to table </TD><TD>K
</TD><TD>02:22:20 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD></TD><TD>Betting round completed </TD><TD>Last active pot = $0.00
Side pot 5 = $16,362.16 </TD><TD>02:22:22 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>ruru52 </TD><TD>Showdown </TD><TD>Show card: Pair
K
K
A
J
8
</TD><TD>02:22:22 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>Just for Fun </TD><TD>Showdown </TD><TD>Show card: Pair
8
8
K
J
9
</TD><TD>02:22:22 </TD></TR><TR class=results><TD>ruru52 </TD><TD>Hand result </TD><TD>$ 16,362.16 </TD><TD>02:22:22 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
So here's the deal. I've been playing MTT's in some capacity for about a year and a half, and have been picking up the volume a little over the last 3 months. I'm having a really tough time getting through to the top 3 of one of these god damn things and I dont' know what I'm doing wrong.
In this play, I decided to squeeze against a loose preflop raiser with a mound of chips, and obviously got snapped off. I hadn't been particularly aggressive in this tournament, although I had raised about 3 hands earlier FWIW. This play alone, is it a terrible one considering the nature of the open raiser? Should I take into account that we're only 9 from the money here?
Is this the type of play that needs to be in the arsenal or needs to be thrown out? Sorry to post in PD but no one ever helps in the HA section... -
There is a min raise UTG and a flat call by UTG+1. This is about as bad a spot to squeeze as possible. One of the two players HAS to have a hand, there is a very high percentage chance that you are going to get called in this situation.
A better time to try a squeeze is when a loose raiser opens from middle or late position and gets flat called by a player on the button or cutoff. In this second situation niether player needs to have any sort of a hand.
However, when there is an EP raise and call, it would be very ill-advised to attempt a squeeze play.
I hope you are able to see why you picked a bad spot. -
Thanks...
I guess I put too much emphasis on the overall pattern of the raiser rather than his position and then I also overlooked how early the caller was, also.
Gotta keep the squeeze play to late position raiser/caller...check. I appreciate it.
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