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  1. SNG grind_15 SNG grind_15 is offline

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    Aug 24th, 2008 (8/24/2008 5:13pm)

    pokerstars Game #19867134196: Tournament #102283065, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2008/08/24 - 16:08:30 (ET)
    Table '102283065 59' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: tachione (35025 in chips)
    Seat 3: JRD312 (12516 in chips)
    Seat 4: dave3318 (81936 in chips)
    Seat 5: PokerXFactr (16415 in chips)
    Seat 6: SNG Grind_15 (37192 in chips)
    Seat 7: ze_caiçara (27732 in chips)
    Seat 8: kenaw (22615 in chips)
    Seat 9: JRJ69 (11930 in chips)
    tachione: posts the ante 100
    JRD312: posts the ante 100
    dave3318: posts the ante 100
    PokerXFactr: posts the ante 100
    SNG Grind_15: posts the ante 100
    ze_caiçara: posts the ante 100
    kenaw: posts the ante 100
    JRJ69: posts the ante 100
    dave3318: posts small blind 500
    PokerXFactr: posts big blind 1000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to SNG Grind_15 [5c Ac]
    SNG Grind_15: raises 1600 to 2600
    ze_caiçara: folds
    kenaw: folds
    JRJ69: folds
    tachione: folds
    JRD312: folds
    dave3318: calls 2100
    PokerXFactr: folds
    *** FLOP *** [6d 9c 8c]
    dave3318: checks
    SNG Grind_15: bets 3750
    dave3318: raises 6250 to 10000
    SNG Grind_15: raises 24492 to 34492 and is all-in
    dave3318: calls 24492
    *** TURN *** [6d 9c 8c] [5h]
    *** RIVER *** [6d 9c 8c 5h] [9h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    dave3318: shows [8s 8h] (a full house, Eights full of Nines)
    SNG Grind_15: shows [5c Ac] (two pair, Nines and Fives)
    dave3318 collected 75984 from pot
    TBPOTT is connected
    PokerXFactr said, "nh"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 75984 | Rake 0
    Board [6d 9c 8c 5h 9h]
    Seat 1: tachione folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: JRD312 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: dave3318 (small blind) showed [8s 8h] and won (75984) with a full house, Eights full of Nines
    Seat 5: PokerXFactr (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: SNG Grind_15 showed [5c Ac] and lost with two pair, Nines and Fives
    Seat 7: ze_caiçara folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: kenaw folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: JRJ69 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    When i made this small cbet i was planning to shove if he raised, but after i made the bet i realized he's range was pretty much a set on this board, maybe 77. I didnt think about it enought and moved in, should i flat here? or is it fairly standard?
     
  2. pkalevar pkalevar is offline

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    Aug 25th, 2008 (8/25/2008 8:59am) in reply to SNG grind_15

    Its tough, hes the big stack and could just be bullying, depends on read... your hand has a ton of outs and your OOP... I would have probably done the same.

    BUT hes getting 2:1 when you shove, so hes not folding too many hands that he would raise there. You kind of have to hope he has a worse draw then you.

    If you call, your done with the hand on turn when you miss... which sucks. But it is the safer move.

    I think this is fairly standard, your hand is too strong to fold, and playing it slow OOP is hard. So shoving seems like the best move, despite that his raise does very well look like a set, there are many other hands he could have there as well. Many of the hands that are ahead of you (low overpairs, 77) might also fold to your reraise.
  3. ka$ino ka$ino is offline

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    Aug 25th, 2008 (8/25/2008 2:40pm) in reply to SNG grind_15

    you played it fine if you were trying to steal from UTG. If you raised Ac5c to get value/you think its a good hand, then its a really bad raise.

    After he reraises you, the only real play is to ship it in.... never flat call on flop if you aren't going to insta shove any turn. (any hand that raises you on that flop is going to call your stop and go anyway, so shoving flop is best... and you are guaranteed to see two cards.)

    Generally, if im attempting a steal from UTG, I like to do it with hands that play well against opponents in case they call. A5 is not one of those hands.
     
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    Aug 26th, 2008 (8/26/2008 1:16pm) in reply to ka$ino

    how do u ever raise for value with an a5? yeh obv UTG steal, thing was i had a sick tight image at the table + i was UTG so i dont expect really an Ax to flat me preflop except AQ maybe AK and possible AJ and its not like im going broke if i hit my A either, but i figured since i was so tight and had a fairly big stack + it was bubble i were very likely to induce folds around the table.
     
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