I've been an off and on lurker here for a while, but don't post much. But I really need some help with situations like this.

This is a 45 man SNG. Down to the final 6, so we just passed the bubble. My read on the open raiser is that his range is probably any pair, JTs and up, and maybe A2-A5s and AT and up. But that's what I think his range is for an open shove--I struggle with figuring out the 3x raise and I struggle with the fact that there is the BB still to act. Is this an easy fold? Or an easy re-steal shove? And is your play any different if the open raiser open shoves instead?

Thanks. I suck at these re-steal situations and need some help.

<SPAN>Full Tilt Poker Game #18334426463: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (138787798), Table 1 - 600/1200 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:29:07 ET - 2010/02/09
</SPAN><SPAN>Seat 2: NeoMachine (1,510)
</SPAN><SPAN>Seat 3: mymoneyunoit (20,645)
</SPAN><SPAN>Seat 4: Fugi1 (12,425)
</SPAN><SPAN>Seat 7: Courtside Sport (12,660)
</SPAN><SPAN>Seat 8: lanimilbus (7,360)
</SPAN><SPAN>Seat 9: Cobra_Kai_75 (12,900)</SPAN><SPAN>lanimi
lbus posts the small blind of 600
</SPAN><SPAN>Cobra_Kai_75 posts the big blind of 1,200
</SPAN><SPAN>The button is in seat #7
</SPAN><SPAN>*** HOLE CARDS ***
</SPAN><SPAN>Dealt to lanimilbus [Tc Ah]
</SPAN><SPAN>NeoMachine folds
</SPAN><SPAN>mymoneyunoit folds
</SPAN><SPAN>Fugi1 folds
</SPAN><SPAN>Courtside Sport has 15 seconds left to act
</SPAN><SPAN>Courtside Sport raises to 3,600
</SPAN><SPAN>lanimilbus has 15 seconds left to act—what’s your play here????
</SPAN><SPAN>Cobra_Kai_75 -?????</SPAN>

Shove, but dont expect the villain to fold his hand as he will feel commited and not so deep either.

 

Originally Posted by JimmyMac20

Does anybody ever us a reverse stop n go here? (flat call, move all in on almost any flop) I've had some success with it.

Seat 8: lanimilbus (7,360)
...
Courtside Sport raises to 3,600

We aren't deep enough for that. I haven't run an ICM but I feel like this is a ship.

[edit]

Nope, its a fold but only just - ATs is what you need to call the button's open :)

He didn't shove, only raised - I still shove here.

Level: 600.0/1200.0/0.0
Structure: 0.39/0.26/0.17/0.11/0.07
Players: 6
Runtime: 647ms [300 Iterations]

<TABLE class=simple border=1 cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR><TH>Player</TH><TH>Stack</TH><TH>Push%</TH><TH>EQPre</TH><TH>EQPost</TH><TH>EQDiff</TH></TR><TR><TD>UTG</TD><TD>1510.0</TD><TD>25.3%</TD><TD>0.0362</TD><TD>0.0405</TD><TD>0.0043</TD></TR><TR><TD>UTG+1</TD><TD>20645.0</TD><TD>100.0%</TD><TD>0.2417</TD><TD>0.2443</TD><TD>0.0026</TD></TR><TR><TD>CO</TD><TD>12425.0</TD><TD>64.7%</TD><TD>0.191</TD><TD>0.193</TD><TD>0.00197</TD></TR><TR><TD>BU</TD><TD>12660.0</TD><TD>99.1%</TD><TD>0.1928</TD><TD>0.1948</TD><TD>0.00197</TD></TR><TR><TD>SB</TD><TD>7360.0</TD><TD>47.5%</TD><TD>0.1437</TD><TD>0.1392</TD><TD>-0.00444</TD></TR><TR><TD>BB</TD><TD>12900.0</TD><TD><TD>0.1946</TD><TD>0.1882</TD><TD>-0.00639</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Explanation:

• <LI>Stack: Players stack before posting blinds.</LI> <LI>Push%: Percentage of hands a player open-pushes.</LI> <LI>EQPre: ICM equity before blinds.</LI> <LI>EQPost: ICM equity after hand.</LI> <LI>EQDiff: ICM equity change during hand.</LI>

<TABLE class=simple border=1 cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR><TH width=40>PU</TH><TH width=40>CA</TH><TH width=40>OC</TH><TH>Range</TH></TR><TR><TD>UTG</TD><TD><TD><TD>25.3%, 33+ A2s+ A5o+ K6s+ KTo+ Q9s+ QTo+ J9s+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>UTG+1</TD><TD><TD>11.2%, 55+ A7s+ A9o+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>CO</TD><TD>1.4%, QQ+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>BU</TD><TD>1.4%, QQ+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>4.2%, 99+ AQs+ AKo </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>1.8%, JJ+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>CO</TD><TD><TD>10.4%, 66+ A8s+ A9o+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>BU</TD><TD>1.8%, JJ+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>3.9%, 99+ AKs AKo </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>1.8%, JJ+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>BU</TD><TD><TD>11.5%, 55+ A7s+ A9o+ KQs </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>4.2%, 99+ AQs+ AKo </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>2.6%, TT+ AKs </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>SB</TD><TD><TD>26.4%, 22+ A2s+ A4o+ K8s+ KTo+ Q9s+ QJo J9s+ T8s+ 98s 87s </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>11.2%, 55+ A8s+ A9o+ KQs </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD><TD>100.0%, Any two</TD></TR><TR><TD>UTG+1</TD><TD><TD><TD>100.0%, Any two</TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>CO</TD><TD><TD>2.3%, TT+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>BU</TD><TD>0.5%, AA </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>0.5%, AA </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>0.9%, KK+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>BU</TD><TD><TD>2.3%, TT+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>0.5%, AA </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>0.5%, AA </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>SB</TD><TD><TD>6.6%, 77+ ATs+ AQo+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>2.3%, TT+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD><TD>3.2%, 88+ </TD></TR><TR><TD>CO</TD><TD><TD><TD>64.7%, 22+ Qx+ J2s+ J4o+ T2s+ T7o+ 95s+ 85s+ 74s+ 63s+ 53s+ 43s </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>BU</TD><TD><TD>2.3%, TT+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>SB</TD><TD>0.5%, AA </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>0.9%, KK+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>SB</TD><TD><TD>4.2%, 99+ AQs+ AKo </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>2.3%, TT+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD><TD>4.2%, 99+ AQs+ AKo </TD></TR><TR><TD>BU</TD><TD><TD><TD>99.1%, 22+ 8x+ 72s+ 73o+ 3x+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>SB</TD><TD><TD>6.6%, 77+ ATs+ AQo+ </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD>3.0%, 99+ AKs </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD><TD>6.6%, 77+ ATs+ AQo+ </TD></TR><TR><TD>SB</TD><TD><TD><TD>47.5%, 22+ Ax+ K2s+ K5o+ Q4s+ Q9o+ J5s+ J8o+ T6s+ T8o+ 96s+ 98o 85s+ 75s+ 65s 54s </TD></TR><TR><TD><TD>BB</TD><TD><TD>22.2%, 44+ A2s+ A4o+ K9s+ KTo+ QTs+ </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Explanation:

• <LI>PU: Pushing Player. Applies when no other player entered the pot yet.</LI> <LI>CA: Calling Player. Player pushes after another player (PU) is already in the pot.</LI> <LI>OC: OverCalling Player. Player pushes after two other players (PU, CA) are already in the pot.</LI>

 

Originally Posted by JimmyMac20

Can you give an idea of how many more chips you'd need?

I don't consider a Stop n Go unless my shove will be at least 2/3 pot but I preferer to be overbetting the pot by 10% to 15% in case I'm up against a flush or str8 draw. Any less and you offer the correct odds to for lots of hands to call for 2 cards.

another 2 cents