I have been watching single draw 2-7 lowball table Melete $.25/50 table for around 15 minutes now and the whole table is occupied by people from china. The betting patterns and actions, both before and after drawing are identical each time.

I contacted stars about this. Im awaiting their response. Can someone check this out. make sure Im not crazy.

It just seems too uniform to be real people.

UPDATE: Looks like this has happened before. I just found this on 2+2.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/21...-2-7-a-342826/

-Cameron

EDIT: I just OPR'ed the players and none show up. Does this happen often?

I'm watching but have 0.52 in my acct so can't chat. :(

If it isn't bots, it is definitely connected accounts. What would be the purpose? Rakeback or to collect on a bonus. I can't see how they are winning.

Yea, systematic all-ins within three hands. Thats how it finished...Then all of them left

-Cameron

Not really a mystery, I was waiting in line to play and noticed it.

-Cameron

Maybe some kind of bot testing?

That 2+2 thread speculates that they're taking flips of some sort. Maybe it's like an online version of SILENT LIBRARY!

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Very weird

very weird indeed all the screen names are less than 6 letters and make no sense as far as screen names go, this make no sense why would stars allow this?

Happening now table Halley .25/.50 NL single draw.....

lolll this is funny

A sample

pokerstars Game #22608249748: Single Draw 2-7 Lowball No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/12/04 4:15:59 ET
Table 'Halley' 7-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: iasl ($13.20 in chips)
Seat 2: kosds ($7.45 in chips)
Seat 3: skuhe ($7.30 in chips)
Seat 4: azomkes ($7.85 in chips)
Seat 5: dmkse ($7.75 in chips)
Seat 6: pskta ($8 in chips)
Seat 7: vmoe ($9.65 in chips)
skuhe: posts small blind $0.25
azomkes: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
dmkse: calls $0.50
pskta: calls $0.50
vmoe: calls $0.50
iasl: raises $2.50 to $3
kosds: calls $3
skuhe: folds
azomkes: folds
dmkse: folds
pskta: folds
vmoe: folds
iasl: discards 1 card
kosds: discards 2 cards
iasl: checks
kosds: bets $3
iasl: folds
Uncalled bet ($3) returned to kosds
kosds collected $7.85 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.25 | Rake $0.40
Seat 1: iasl folded on the Flop
Seat 2: kosds (button) collected ($7.85)
Seat 3: skuhe (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: azomkes (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: dmkse folded before Flop
Seat 6: pskta folded before Flop
Seat 7: vmoe folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #22608256347: Single Draw 2-7 Lowball No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/12/04 4:16:39 ET
Table 'Halley' 7-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: iasl ($10.20 in chips)
Seat 2: kosds ($12.30 in chips)
Seat 3: skuhe ($7.05 in chips)
Seat 4: azomkes ($7.35 in chips)
Seat 5: dmkse ($7.25 in chips)
Seat 6: pskta ($7.50 in chips)
Seat 7: vmoe ($9.15 in chips)
azomkes: posts small blind $0.25
dmkse: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
pskta: calls $0.50
vmoe: calls $0.50
iasl: calls $0.50
kosds: raises $2.50 to $3
skuhe: calls $3
azomkes: folds
dmkse: folds
pskta: folds
vmoe: folds
iasl: folds
kosds: discards 2 cards
skuhe: discards 3 cards
kosds: checks
skuhe: bets $3
kosds: folds
Uncalled bet ($3) returned to skuhe
skuhe collected $7.85 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.25 | Rake $0.40
Seat 1: iasl folded before Flop
Seat 2: kosds folded on the Flop
Seat 3: skuhe (button) collected ($7.85)
Seat 4: azomkes (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: dmkse (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: pskta folded before Flop
Seat 7: vmoe folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #22608262530: Single Draw 2-7 Lowball No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/12/04 4:17:16 ET
Table 'Halley' 7-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: iasl ($9.70 in chips)
Seat 2: kosds ($9.30 in chips)
Seat 3: skuhe ($11.90 in chips)
Seat 4: azomkes ($7.10 in chips)
Seat 5: dmkse ($6.75 in chips)
Seat 6: pskta ($7 in chips)
Seat 7: vmoe ($8.65 in chips)
dmkse: posts small blind $0.25
pskta: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
vmoe: calls $0.50
iasl: calls $0.50
kosds: calls $0.50
skuhe: raises $2.50 to $3
azomkes: calls $3
dmkse: folds
pskta: folds
vmoe: folds
iasl: folds
kosds: folds
skuhe: discards 2 cards
azomkes: discards 1 card
skuhe: checks
azomkes: bets $3
skuhe: folds
Uncalled bet ($3) returned to azomkes
azomkes collected $7.85 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.25 | Rake $0.40
Seat 1: iasl folded before Flop
Seat 2: kosds folded before Flop
Seat 3: skuhe folded on the Flop
Seat 4: azomkes (button) collected ($7.85)
Seat 5: dmkse (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: pskta (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: vmoe folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #22608269698: Single Draw 2-7 Lowball No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/12/04 4:17:59 ET
Table 'Halley' 7-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: iasl ($9.20 in chips)
Seat 2: kosds ($8.80 in chips)
Seat 3: skuhe ($8.90 in chips)
Seat 4: azomkes ($11.95 in chips)
Seat 5: dmkse ($6.50 in chips)
Seat 6: pskta ($6.50 in chips)
Seat 7: vmoe ($8.15 in chips)
pskta: posts small blind $0.25
vmoe: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
iasl: calls $0.50
kosds: calls $0.50
skuhe: calls $0.50
azomkes: raises $2.50 to $3
dmkse: calls $3
pskta: folds
vmoe: folds
iasl: folds
kosds: folds
skuhe: folds
azomkes: discards 2 cards
dmkse: discards 1 card
azomkes: checks
dmkse: bets $3
azomkes: folds
Uncalled bet ($3) returned to dmkse
dmkse collected $7.85 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.25 | Rake $0.40
Seat 1: iasl folded before Flop
Seat 2: kosds folded before Flop
Seat 3: skuhe folded before Flop
Seat 4: azomkes folded on the Flop
Seat 5: dmkse (button) collected ($7.85)
Seat 6: pskta (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: vmoe (big blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #22608275924: Single Draw 2-7 Lowball No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/12/04 4:18:36 ET
Table 'Halley' 7-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: iasl ($8.70 in chips)
Seat 2: kosds ($8.30 in chips)
Seat 3: skuhe ($8.40 in chips)
Seat 4: azomkes ($8.95 in chips)
Seat 5: dmkse ($11.35 in chips)
Seat 6: pskta ($6.25 in chips)
Seat 7: vmoe ($7.65 in chips)
vmoe: posts small blind $0.25
iasl: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
kosds: calls $0.50
skuhe: calls $0.50
azomkes: calls $0.50
dmkse: raises $2.50 to $3
pskta: calls $3
vmoe: folds
iasl: folds
kosds: folds
skuhe: folds
azomkes: folds
dmkse: discards 2 cards
pskta: discards 1 card
dmkse: checks
pskta: bets $3
dmkse: folds
Uncalled bet ($3) returned to pskta
pskta collected $7.85 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.25 | Rake $0.40
Seat 1: iasl (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: kosds folded before Flop
Seat 3: skuhe folded before Flop
Seat 4: azomkes folded before Flop
Seat 5: dmkse folded on the Flop
Seat 6: pskta (button) collected ($7.85)
Seat 7: vmoe (small blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #22608282867: Single Draw 2-7 Lowball No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/12/04 4:19:18 ET
Table 'Halley' 7-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: iasl ($8.20 in chips)
Seat 2: kosds ($7.80 in chips)
Seat 3: skuhe ($7.90 in chips)
Seat 4: azomkes ($8.45 in chips)
Seat 5: dmkse ($8.35 in chips)
Seat 6: pskta ($11.10 in chips)
Seat 7: vmoe ($7.40 in chips)
iasl: posts small blind $0.25
kosds: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
skuhe: calls $0.50
azomkes: calls $0.50
dmkse: calls $0.50
pskta: raises $2.50 to $3
vmoe: calls $3
iasl: folds
kosds: folds
skuhe: folds
azomkes: folds
dmkse: folds
pskta: discards 2 cards
vmoe: discards 1 card
pskta: checks
vmoe: bets $3
pskta: folds
Uncalled bet ($3) returned to vmoe
vmoe collected $7.85 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.25 | Rake $0.40
Seat 1: iasl (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: kosds (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: skuhe folded before Flop
Seat 4: azomkes folded before Flop
Seat 5: dmkse folded before Flop
Seat 6: pskta folded on the Flop
Seat 7: vmoe (button) collected ($7.85)

PokerStars Game #22608290200: Single Draw 2-7 Lowball No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/12/04 4:20:02 ET
Table 'Halley' 7-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: iasl ($7.95 in chips)
Seat 2: kosds ($7.30 in chips)
Seat 3: skuhe ($7.40 in chips)
Seat 4: azomkes ($7.95 in chips)
Seat 5: dmkse ($7.85 in chips)
Seat 6: pskta ($8.10 in chips)
Seat 7: vmoe ($12.25 in chips)
kosds: posts small blind $0.25
skuhe: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
azomkes: calls $0.50
dmkse: calls $0.50
pskta: calls $0.50
vmoe: raises $2.50 to $3
iasl: calls $3
kosds: folds
skuhe: folds
azomkes: folds
dmkse: folds
pskta: folds
vmoe: discards 1 card
iasl: discards 1 card
vmoe: checks
iasl: bets $3
vmoe: folds
Uncalled bet ($3) returned to iasl
iasl collected $7.85 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.25 | Rake $0.40
Seat 1: iasl (button) collected ($7.85)
Seat 2: kosds (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: skuhe (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: azomkes folded before Flop
Seat 5: dmkse folded before Flop
Seat 6: pskta folded before Flop
Seat 7: vmoe folded on the Flop

PokerStars Game #22608296401: Single Draw 2-7 Lowball No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/12/04 4:20:40 ET
Table 'Halley' 7-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: iasl ($12.80 in chips)
Seat 2: kosds ($7.05 in chips)
Seat 3: skuhe ($6.90 in chips)
Seat 4: azomkes ($7.45 in chips)
Seat 5: dmkse ($7.35 in chips)
Seat 6: pskta ($7.60 in chips)
Seat 7: vmoe ($9.25 in chips)
skuhe: posts small blind $0.25
azomkes: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
dmkse: calls $0.50
pskta: calls $0.50
vmoe: calls $0.50
iasl: raises $2.50 to $3
kosds: calls $3
skuhe: folds
azomkes: folds
dmkse: folds
pskta: folds
vmoe: folds
iasl: discards 1 card
kosds: discards 1 card
iasl: checks
kosds: bets $3
iasl: folds
Uncalled bet ($3) returned to kosds
kosds collected $7.85 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.25 | Rake $0.40
Seat 1: iasl folded on the Flop
Seat 2: kosds (button) collected ($7.85)
Seat 3: skuhe (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: azomkes (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: dmkse folded before Flop
Seat 6: pskta folded before Flop
Seat 7: vmoe folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #22608303899: Single Draw 2-7 Lowball No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/12/04 4:21:25 ET
Table 'Halley' 7-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: iasl ($9.80 in chips)
Seat 2: kosds ($11.90 in chips)
Seat 3: skuhe ($6.65 in chips)
Seat 4: azomkes ($6.95 in chips)
Seat 5: dmkse ($6.85 in chips)
Seat 6: pskta ($7.10 in chips)
Seat 7: vmoe ($8.75 in chips)
azomkes: posts small blind $0.25
dmkse: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
pskta: calls $0.50
vmoe: calls $0.50
iasl: calls $0.50
kosds: raises $2.50 to $3
skuhe: calls $3
azomkes: folds
dmkse: folds
pskta: folds
vmoe: folds
iasl: folds
kosds: discards 2 cards
skuhe: discards 2 cards
kosds: checks
skuhe: bets $3
kosds: folds
Uncalled bet ($3) returned to skuhe
skuhe collected $7.85 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.25 | Rake $0.40
Seat 1: iasl folded before Flop
Seat 2: kosds folded on the Flop
Seat 3: skuhe (button) collected ($7.85)
Seat 4: azomkes (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: dmkse (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: pskta folded before Flop
Seat 7: vmoe folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #22608310405: Single Draw 2-7 Lowball No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/12/04 4:22:05 ET
Table 'Halley' 7-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: iasl ($9.30 in chips)
Seat 2: kosds ($8.90 in chips)
Seat 3: skuhe ($11.50 in chips)
Seat 4: azomkes ($6.70 in chips)
Seat 5: dmkse ($6.35 in chips)
Seat 6: pskta ($6.60 in chips)
Seat 7: vmoe ($8.25 in chips)
dmkse: posts small blind $0.25
pskta: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
vmoe: calls $0.50
iasl: calls $0.50
kosds: calls $0.50
skuhe: raises $2.50 to $3
azomkes: calls $3
dmkse: folds
pskta: folds
vmoe: folds
iasl: folds
kosds: folds
skuhe: discards 1 card
azomkes: discards 1 card
skuhe: checks
azomkes: bets $3
skuhe: folds
Uncalled bet ($3) returned to azomkes
azomkes collected $7.85 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.25 | Rake $0.40
Seat 1: iasl folded before Flop
Seat 2: kosds folded before Flop
Seat 3: skuhe folded on the Flop
Seat 4: azomkes (button) collected ($7.85)
Seat 5: dmkse (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: pskta (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: vmoe folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #22608316910: Single Draw 2-7 Lowball No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/12/04 4:22:45 ET
Table 'Halley' 7-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: iasl ($8.80 in chips)
Seat 2: kosds ($8.40 in chips)
Seat 3: skuhe ($8.50 in chips)
Seat 4: azomkes ($11.55 in chips)
Seat 5: dmkse ($6.10 in chips)
Seat 6: pskta ($6.10 in chips)
Seat 7: vmoe ($7.75 in chips)
pskta: posts small blind $0.25
vmoe: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
iasl: calls $0.50
kosds: calls $0.50
skuhe: calls $0.50
azomkes: raises $2.50 to $3
dmkse: calls $3
pskta: folds
vmoe: folds
iasl: folds
kosds: folds
skuhe: folds
azomkes: discards 2 cards
dmkse: discards 1 card
azomkes: checks
dmkse: bets $3
azomkes: folds
Uncalled bet ($3) returned to dmkse
dmkse collected $7.85 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.25 | Rake $0.40
Seat 1: iasl folded before Flop
Seat 2: kosds folded before Flop
Seat 3: skuhe folded before Flop
Seat 4: azomkes folded on the Flop
Seat 5: dmkse (button) collected ($7.85)
Seat 6: pskta (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: vmoe (big blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #22608323927: Single Draw 2-7 Lowball No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/12/04 4:23:27 ET
Table 'Halley' 7-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: iasl ($8.30 in chips)
Seat 2: kosds ($7.90 in chips)
Seat 3: skuhe ($8 in chips)
Seat 4: azomkes ($8.55 in chips)
Seat 5: dmkse ($10.95 in chips)
Seat 6: pskta ($5.85 in chips)
Seat 7: vmoe ($7.25 in chips)
vmoe: posts small blind $0.25
iasl: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
kosds: calls $0.50
skuhe: calls $0.50
azomkes: calls $0.50
dmkse: raises $2.50 to $3
pskta: calls $3
vmoe: folds
iasl: folds
kosds: folds
skuhe: folds
azomkes: folds
dmkse: discards 2 cards
pskta: stands pat
dmkse: checks
pskta: bets $2.50
dmkse: folds
Uncalled bet ($2.50) returned to pskta
pskta collected $7.85 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.25 | Rake $0.40
Seat 1: iasl (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: kosds folded before Flop
Seat 3: skuhe folded before Flop
Seat 4: azomkes folded before Flop
Seat 5: dmkse folded on the Flop
Seat 6: pskta (button) collected ($7.85)
Seat 7: vmoe (small blind) folded before Flop

 

Originally Posted by Rchhockey68

Recent email from stars,

Hello Richard,

Thank you for your report.

My apologies for any misunderstanding. I have located the accounts of the
players in question.

Please rest assured that we do not tolerate automated players (bots) on
pokerstars. We have an extensive arsenal of detection tools in order to
ensure that each player is a human being.

While I cannot detail each of the tools we use to make this determination
(we don't want our methods to fall into the hands of bot programmers who
will then use that information to avoid detection), I can assure you that
these players do not show any indication of being bots, based upon all of
the tests we have devised.

However, I can confirm that they are committing fraudulent activities,
primarily generating FPPs in order to abuse PokerStars deposit bonus
system and they will be dealt with.

Please note that these players are all related to each other and they have
occupied all seats on the table, therefore, no players were harmed in the
process.

Again we thank you for your report, as we would always rather check such
players out and know for sure. I wish you the best of luck in your future
games, and thank you for playing on PokerStars.

Regards,

Hoong

LMAO as if they are this stupid and got caught being retards. What a bunch of idiots. Like nobody would notice these guys cheating like that.LLLOLLL.
Well done OP on spotting them and reporting it. I am sure you got them banned and their monies confinscated

LOL this is happening again at table vesta. (single draw 2-7)

stars security is obviously not as competent, as we would like to believe.

Perhaps I should change my line of work.....

 

Originally Posted by chitsfarang

No they are not stupid! They actually believe in what they are doing and calling you a dumbass for not taking advantage of the same "opportunity". Morals and ethics is not on top of the these guys agenda. You play in a live game out here and you get used to stringbets and collusion as part of the game. Table talk is up to the majority to decide( chinese) and you just have to accept it as the floor does. Luckily, online pokerstars is doing a first class job in policing these morons!

No they are not stupid? but at the end of your post you call them morons?

You sir are an idiot.