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  1. CptTripps CptTripps is offline

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    Sep 18th, 2010 (9/18/2010 3:00am)

    Are you ever not giving him the pile on the river or should I have known it was a huge cooler?

    pokerstars Game #49779161174: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2010/09/17 21:48:59 ET
    Table 'Betelgeuse VIII' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: W. O'Boogie ($12.99 in chips)
    Seat 2: bonat217 ($13.38 in chips)
    Seat 3: cpt_tripps23 ($12.50 in chips)
    Seat 4: Arratiano2 ($16.48 in chips)
    Seat 5: jackasspade ($9.88 in chips)
    Seat 6: UCBearcat12 ($6.45 in chips)
    Seat 7: yell wong ($12.85 in chips)
    Seat 8: Bankrfil ($7.60 in chips)
    Seat 9: kissdamn ($7.14 in chips)
    bonat217: posts small blind $0.02
    cpt_tripps23: posts big blind $0.05
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to cpt_tripps23 [8h 8d]
    Arratiano2: folds
    Arratiano2 leaves the table
    jackasspade: raises $0.05 to $0.10
    UCBearcat12: folds
    yell wong: folds
    Bankrfil: folds
    kissdamn: raises $0.20 to $0.30
    W. O'Boogie: folds
    bonat217: folds
    cpt_tripps23: calls $0.25
    jackasspade: folds
    *** FLOP *** [9d Qd 9c]
    cpt_tripps23: checks
    XMontaubanX joins the table at seat #4
    kissdamn: checks
    *** TURN *** [9d Qd 9c] [8s]
    cpt_tripps23: bets $0.20
    kissdamn: calls $0.20
    *** RIVER *** [9d Qd 9c 8s] [5h]
    cpt_tripps23: bets $0.50
    kissdamn: raises $2.90 to $3.40
    cpt_tripps23: raises $8.60 to $12 and is all-in
    kissdamn: calls $3.24 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet ($5.36) returned to cpt_tripps23
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    cpt_tripps23: shows [8h 8d] (a full house, Eights full of Nines)
    kissdamn: shows [Qh Qs] (a full house, Queens full of Nines)
    kissdamn collected $13.69 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $14.40 | Rake $0.71
    Board [9d Qd 9c 8s 5h]
    Seat 1: W. O'Boogie (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: bonat217 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: cpt_tripps23 (big blind) showed [8h 8d] and lost with a full house, Eights full of Nines
    Seat 4: Arratiano2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: jackasspade folded before Flop
    Seat 6: UCBearcat12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: yell wong folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Bankrfil folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: kissdamn showed [Qh Qs] and won ($13.69) with a full house, Queens full of Nines
  2. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Sep 19th, 2010 (9/19/2010 4:05am) in reply to CptTripps

    His river raise is really gross...I mean, hair-raising. What is he re-raising with pre-flop that he plays passively on the flop & turn...but raises a completely innocent-looking river? He's got a monster. Now, at these stakes, he might think his AA or KK is a monster. But I'd like to think I just call the river raise.

    This discussion would have been MUCH more interesting if you had edited the hand history to just reach your decision point to the river raise, and removed the rest.
  3. PetiteMoose PetiteMoose is offline

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    Sep 20th, 2010 (9/20/2010 5:02pm) in reply to grapsfan

    Yeah, the passive line then tons of strength on the river should make you think that QQ is possible. Any time the preflop aggressor checks behind on the flop you should be thinking a trap is possible.

    If you think a 9 is in his range or JT, then that would be possible. Along with AQ. So obviously never folding.

    Same as grapsfan, I like to think I just call the river raise here - but the shove is not terrible either. It depends on the read.
     
  4. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Sep 21st, 2010 (9/21/2010 12:09am) in reply to PetiteMoose

    I don't think it's a "call or shove" river spot. I think it's a call or fold. When you shove, what's he calling with that you can beat, other than maybe 55?
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