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extracting max value with flopped quads

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  1. dannyg1989 dannyg1989 is offline

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    Aug 24th, 2010 (8/24/2010 2:22pm)

    i feel like this hand is ridiculously standard but do any of you check the turn (or bet less as i think i bet a bit too much) to get him to bluff the river/catch up slightly? though this obv means you dont get 3 streets of value which is what i was hopin for...

    pokerstars Game #48594103047: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2010/08/24 11:30:34 WET [2010/08/24 6:30:34 ET]
    Table 'Bojeva' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Rigged9 ($4.99 in chips)
    Seat 2: LO7281 ($23.38 in chips)
    Seat 3: bluffuoffit ($11.57 in chips)
    Seat 4: dannyg1989 ($10.51 in chips)
    Seat 5: titogalvez ($10 in chips)
    Seat 6: fran_4774 ($9 in chips)
    Seat 7: PTrick1990 ($11.65 in chips)
    Seat 8: Alexsius M ($10.13 in chips)
    Seat 9: hczmyhcz ($3.40 in chips)
    PTrick1990: posts small blind $0.05
    Alexsius M: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to dannyg1989 [Kc Ks]
    hczmyhcz: folds
    Rigged9 has timed out
    Rigged9: folds
    LO7281: calls $0.10
    bluffuoffit: raises $0.30 to $0.40
    dannyg1989: raises $1.10 to $1.50
    titogalvez: folds
    fran_4774: folds
    PTrick1990: folds
    Alexsius M: folds
    LO7281: folds
    bluffuoffit: calls $1.10
    *** FLOP *** [Kd Kh Js]
    bluffuoffit: checks
    dannyg1989: bets $1.40
    bluffuoffit: calls $1.40
    *** TURN *** [Kd Kh Js] [6h]
    bluffuoffit: checks
    dannyg1989: bets $3.70
    bluffuoffit: folds
    Uncalled bet ($3.70) returned to dannyg1989
    dannyg1989 collected $5.76 from pot
    dannyg1989: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $6.05 | Rake $0.29
    Board [Kd Kh Js 6h]
    Seat 1: Rigged9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: LO7281 folded before Flop
    Seat 3: bluffuoffit folded on the Turn
    Seat 4: dannyg1989 collected ($5.76)
    Seat 5: titogalvez folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: fran_4774 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: PTrick1990 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: Alexsius M (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: hczmyhcz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. nw25th nw25th is offline

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    Aug 24th, 2010 (8/24/2010 2:37pm) in reply to dannyg1989

    I hate my original response....I plead the 5th
    Edited By: nw25th Aug 24th, 2010 at 02:39 PM
  3. bdluss bdluss is offline

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    Aug 24th, 2010 (8/24/2010 2:45pm) in reply to nw25th

    I like your lead on the flop, on the turn I bet probably 1/3 the pot. I am trying to get value, but also trying to set the person up to bluff thinking that I am weak. I am not sure you get called if you bet big on all 3 streets. So, I bet about 1/3 pot on river too.

    This is different how I would play the hand if I flopped quads J with a king on board. If I flopped this, I woud continue on like you did here with bigger bets.
     
  4. Ace10Suted Ace10Suted is offline

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    Aug 24th, 2010 (8/24/2010 4:31pm) in reply to bdluss

     
    Originally Posted by bdluss View Post

    I like your lead on the flop, on the turn I bet probably 1/3 the pot. I am trying to get value, but also trying to set the person up to bluff thinking that I am weak. I am not sure you get called if you bet big on all 3 streets. So, I bet about 1/3 pot on river too.

    This is different how I would play the hand if I flopped quads J with a king on board. If I flopped this, I woud continue on like you did here with bigger bets.

    I can agree with this. He even folds a slowplayed AA here because you are repping a K big time. Flopping quads sucks because someone else has to have, or make, something they REALLY like being they may give you one of the paired cards, let alone both. On KKJ6, I'm either checking or betting smallish like luss said. There is not a single thing you can lose to at this point. So let him peel another card off either for free or cheaply.
  5. saxton82 saxton82 is offline

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    Aug 24th, 2010 (8/24/2010 4:39pm) in reply to Ace10Suted

    Lead out flop for the continuation bet, check/call turn to make it look like youre slowing down. Pot size bet river to make it look like a bluff and induce a call
  6. dannyg1989 dannyg1989 is offline

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    Aug 24th, 2010 (8/24/2010 5:12pm) in reply to saxton82

     
    Originally Posted by saxton82 View Post

    Lead out flop for the continuation bet, check/call turn to make it look like youre slowing down. Pot size bet river to make it look like a bluff and induce a call

    cant check/call as im in position. but i get what youre tryin to say :)

    thanks for the responses!
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