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  1. Betterman Betterman is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 12:38am)

    On the flop I'm clearly in the lead with the made straight, but when the BB donk bets how should I proceed? Do I flat & hope that this makes one of the other 2 in the pot call as well or should I be worried about someone else drawing to the flush & raise?

    pokerstars Hand #74825979749: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2012/02/01 0:22:31 WET [2012/01/31 19:22:31 ET]
    Table 'Juewa V' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: GM604 ($31.92 in chips)
    Seat 2: shaunsenior ($39.89 in chips)
    Seat 3: EgoP91 ($25 in chips)
    Seat 5: Leorabotaet ($12.50 in chips)
    Seat 6: PokerDiablo2 ($21.98 in chips)
    Seat 7: 3aHoCu 6a6LO ($25.31 in chips)
    Seat 8: CapeTownBoy ($18.24 in chips)
    Seat 9: huasamaco ($30.92 in chips)
    PokerDiablo2: posts small blind $0.10
    3aHoCu 6a6LO: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to CapeTownBoy [Jc Qd]
    Deranali joins the table at seat #4
    CapeTownBoy: raises $0.50 to $0.75
    huasamaco: calls $0.75
    GM604: folds
    shaunsenior: folds
    EgoP91: folds
    Leorabotaet: folds
    PokerDiablo2: calls $0.65
    3aHoCu 6a6LO: calls $0.50
    *** FLOP *** [Ts 8h 9h]
    PokerDiablo2: checks
    3aHoCu 6a6LO: bets $2
    CapeTownBoy: ???
  2. MYBLUEDOG MYBLUEDOG is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 2:32am) in reply to Betterman

    I would say "Raise" to "$5 to $5.75." Try to do two things: narrow the field (protect from the flush draws) & build the pot. This charges the players to draw but still gives you some chance to get value for your nut hand. If you get called and a safe card comes on the turn, the pot will be big enough for you to go all-in.

    Someone with a flush draw may push over your raise. Other troubling cards could be a [Q] or [J] and improve someone holding [KJ] or [KQ] [AJ] or [AQ] with hearts.
  3. Betterman Betterman is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 10:24am) in reply to MYBLUEDOG

    Do you play it the same if you're holding the other end of the straight or is that just a flat call?
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  4. ACgaming ACgaming is online now

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 10:59am) in reply to Betterman

     
    Originally Posted by Betterman View Post

    Do you play it the same if you're holding the other end of the straight or is that just a flat call?


    I say raise if you are on the other side of the straight and get it in if possible.

    @op: For this flop I think it will be more profitable over time to call this flop and raise most turns. If there is still action on river it will be a re eval.

    I like that because it gives the third player a chance to raise and then you can flat or big squeeze potentially building a monster.. If UTG+1 calls and the FD hits or you get counterfeit you can get feel out the turn and make the best play then..

    I don't play much cash but I would shoot to build a large pot here and you don't wanna scare anyone away by protecting my hand.
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  5. David Whats David Whats is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 1:04pm) in reply to ACgaming

    Not a fan of the raise pre fl.

    On flop, i raise to $6 ish to charge fl draws and str8 draws and for value. If a j,Q or any heart come on turn (and even a 6 or 7 to some degree) is likely to slow action from hands you beat, or get action from hands that have caught up or overtaken you.
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    Feb 2nd, 2012 (2/2/2012 7:48am) in reply to David Whats

    This hand ended up working out better than I expected. I raised to $5, the other 2 folded & the BB shoved with the wrong end of the straight.
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