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Facing a shove for half your stack near the bubble

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  1. Tarvin Tarvin is offline

    Warrenton, VA
    United States

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 10:46am)

    Environment: SB came to the table a few hands before the end of the previous level. We just came back from a break and there were 23 players left with 18 getting paid. SB had open shoved one hand but didn't get called. No standard raises, reraises, or even limps.

    Questions:
    1. What kind of range do you put him on?

    2. Would you call?

    Full Tilt Poker Game #3291447591: $8 + $0.80 Sit & Go (25158815), Table 17 - 200/400 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:17:48 ET - 2007/08/18
    Seat 1: cameljoe82 (17,739)
    Seat 3: workman3330 (12,512)
    <span>Seat 5: SB (5,390)</span>
    <span>Seat 6: BB (11,095)</span>
    Seat 7: apateonas (20,244)
    Seat 8: Feiel (5,387)
    Seat 9: randyt57 (770)
    cameljoe82 antes 50
    workman3330 antes 50
    SB antes 50
    BB antes 50
    apateonas antes 50
    Feiel antes 50
    randyt57 antes 50
    SB posts the small blind of 200
    BB posts the big blind of 400
    The button is in seat #3
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to BB [Ac 4c]
    apateonas folds
    Feiel folds
    randyt57 folds
    cameljoe82 folds
    workman3330 folds
    <span>SB raises to 5,340, and is all in</span>
    ...
  2. sotti sotti is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 11:01am) in reply to Tarvin

    doesn't matter, easy fold, A4 vs 78 is about a coinflip.
  3. MYBLUEDOG MYBLUEDOG is offline

    Greenville, MS
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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 12:22pm) in reply to Tarvin

    1. What kind of range do you put him on?
    <span>Any two cards</span>
    2. Would you call?

    Why would you consider making the call? You are behind any bigger [A,x] and any [pp]. You are slightly ahead or way behind.

    ProPokerTools
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    <span>2,097,572,400 trials (Exhaustive)</span>
    <table border="1" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><th>Hand</th><th>Pot equity</th><th>Wins</th><th>Ties</th></tr><tr><td>Ac4c</td><td>59.03%</td><td>1,198,506,708</td><td>79,533,094</td></tr><tr><td>**</td><td>40.97%</td><td>819,532,598</td><td>79,533,094</td></tr></tbody></table>

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    <span>246,571,776 trials (Exhaustive)</span>
    <table border="1" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><th>Hand</th><th>Pot equity</th><th>Wins</th><th>Ties</th></tr><tr><td>Ac4c</td><td>40.49%</td><td>66,737,736</td><td>66,220,131</td></tr><tr><td>A*</td><td>59.51%</td><td>113,613,909</td><td>66,220,13</td></tr></tbody></table>

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    <table border="1" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><th>Hand</th><th>Pot equity</th><th>Wins</th><th>Ties</th></tr><tr><td>Ac4c</td><td>36.35%</td><td>42,615,471</td><td>661,008</td></tr><tr><td>22-KK</td><td>63.65%</td><td>74,872,497</td><td>661,008</td></tr></tbody></table>
  4. Tarvin Tarvin is offline

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    Aug 24th, 2007 (8/24/2007 3:18pm) in reply to MYBLUEDOG

    I wouldn't make a call from the BB, but I was shoving from the small blind (and lost, obviously) and trying to make sense of it from his perspective because I am repeatedly getting knocked out on situations like the one posted.

    Ah well, thanks for the responses.
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