facing an UTG raise with 99

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  1. DeafEars DeafEars is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2007 (3/3/2007 1:57pm)

    I figure I have plenty of time to think about it.
  2. SCTrojans SCTrojans is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2007 (3/3/2007 3:08pm) in reply to DeafEars

    Sometimes raise, sometimes fold, sometimes call.
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  3. Largadon Largadon is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2007 (3/3/2007 3:13pm) in reply to SCTrojans

    More toughts please?

    Generally against a TAG player you're racing or a big dog.
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    Mar 3rd, 2007 (3/3/2007 3:26pm) in reply to DeafEars

    vs tag player depending on stack size you could flat call for set value...is it a standard raise? Shove? stack sizes? Blind level?....it matters
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    Mar 3rd, 2007 (3/3/2007 3:34pm) in reply to jbay

    I shove just to see how good of posistion you are in. If you get called you are either beat, racing, or ahead. If you don't get called, you scoop. See, simple. Shove.
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    Mar 3rd, 2007 (3/3/2007 3:45pm) in reply to DeafEars

    You don't beat his range so reraising isn't the best option.

    I suggest set mining if the blinds are small.

    I like to use 11-1 as good implied odds for set mining. It's 7.5-1 against hitting a set and add 2.5x more for the rare but costly times that the set doesn't hold up. Add 1 more for your edge and you get 11.

    What that means is make the call if both you and the raiser both have 11x what it takes to call.

    You should factor in the likelihood of being reraised behind you, so the earlier position you are, the better implied odds you should look for.

    Here's a nice table for this spot:

    Your position Implied odds needed

    Big Blind 11-1
    Small Blind 11.5-1
    Button 12-1
    Cutoff 12.5-1
    Two from button 13-1
    Three from button 13.5-1
    Four from button 14-1
    Five from button 14.5-1
    Six from button 15-1

    Just an estimation, but I think it's pretty good.

    Hope that helps!
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    Mar 3rd, 2007 (3/3/2007 3:46pm) in reply to Jennifear

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    Mar 3rd, 2007 (3/3/2007 3:47pm) in reply to Jennifear

    jennifear=one of the best responders on here

    Randers
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    Mar 3rd, 2007 (3/3/2007 3:49pm) in reply to ihaterats

    TY ess for the kind words :)
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