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Feds quietly seize online poker funds in Washington State

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  1. DeaconMike DeaconMike is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 2:35pm)

    http://blogs.forbes.com/nathanvardi/...in-washington/

    Guess the suits figure since they couldn't get an online poker bill passed
    during the lame duck session they'd start getting their cut anyways.
  2. StayCalm StayCalm is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 2:53pm) in reply to DeaconMike

    Sigh...
  3. rock_it_bad rock_it_bad is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 3:06pm) in reply to StayCalm

    gross... glad i live in Aus
  4. s1nnr s1nnr is offline will stab you

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 3:16pm) in reply to rock_it_bad

    This can't be good
  5. Pman9000 Pman9000 is offline wanna revise?

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 4:03pm) in reply to s1nnr

    Ouch, you guys are up a certain Creek without a paddle!
    Edited By: Pman9000 Jan 5th, 2011 at 04:04 PM
  6. P0KERDUUDE P0KERDUUDE is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 4:09pm) in reply to Pman9000

    "The largest of these forfeiture cases, filed in December and involving $5.1 million, began in June after task force officer William Marik was notified by a witness that he had received a payout check of online poker winnings from Arrow Checks."

    what kind of douche would go and do that
     
  7. z06fanatic z06fanatic is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 4:23pm) in reply to P0KERDUUDE

    thats nice - the us government takes money from its citizens - what a shocking revelation
     2
  8. johnny_B420 johnny_B420 is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 5:19pm) in reply to z06fanatic

    "Those bank accounts were used to issue checks that represented proceeds from online poker play at Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker, according to online poker players in the state of Washington who received them and spoke to government investigators"

    That makes me sick to know that some online players have snitched on us. Well, at least now I know where the money went and what has been the hold up.
  9. Imustcall Imustcall is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 5:24pm) in reply to johnny_B420

     
    Originally Posted by johnny_B420 View Post

    "Those bank accounts were used to issue checks that represented proceeds from online poker play at Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker, according to online poker players in the state of Washington who received them and spoke to government investigators"

    That makes me sick to know that some online players have snitched on us. Well, at least now I know where the money went and what has been the hold up.

    You can hardly blame a player for telling the truth when questioned by a federal investigator.
  10. winkie23 winkie23 is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 5:37pm) in reply to DeaconMike

    Just curious - if you live outside of Washington state, but visit, can you play on stars? Do they block players based on residence or where you're accessing the site from?
  11. Danezone Danezone is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 6:03pm) in reply to winkie23

     
    Originally Posted by winkie23 View Post

    Just curious - if you live outside of Washington state, but visit, can you play on stars? Do they block players based on residence or where you're accessing the site from?

    I believe that it is now a class C felony to play online poker while in the state of Washington.
     
  12. northkato northkato is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 6:39pm) in reply to Danezone

    the feds probably spent 6.1million seizing that 5.1million.
  13. otang4prez otang4prez is offline MMM is my Hero

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 7:12pm) in reply to Imustcall

     
    Originally Posted by Imustcall View Post

    You can hardly blame a player for telling the truth when questioned by a federal investigator.


    Thats why you politely say if you don't have a warrant I have nothing to say and shut the door. Why are some people such pussies when it comes to the man?
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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 7:13pm) in reply to northkato

    retarded.. dont tilt me before i start playing ...
  15. NUTZREALHUGE NUTZREALHUGE is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 7:15pm) in reply to otang4prez

    i dont know why any of you guys are shocked, online poker has been illegal since they passed the uigea or w/e. really what is surprising to me is that they havent seized more money.
  16. squintster squintster is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 7:24pm) in reply to NUTZREALHUGE

     
    Originally Posted by NUTZREALHUGE View Post

    i dont know why any of you guys are shocked, online poker has been illegal since they passed the uigea or w/e. really what is surprising to me is that they havent seized more money.

    SMH
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  17. TFly33 TFly33 is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 7:24pm) in reply to NUTZREALHUGE

     
    Originally Posted by NUTZREALHUGE View Post

    i dont know why any of you guys are shocked, online poker has been illegal since they passed the uigea or w/e. really what is surprising to me is that they havent seized more money.


    huh?
  18. OGHowie OGHowie is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 7:47pm) in reply to TFly33

    anyone actually affected by this? anyone have their money seized? or was it just the processors?

    edit: ok seems like it's just the processors, why the fuck would they have their money in Washington? seems pretty obv it was time to gtfo
    Edited By: OGHowie Jan 5th, 2011 at 07:49 PM
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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 8:00pm) in reply to NUTZREALHUGE

     
    Originally Posted by NUTZREALHUGE View Post

    i dont know why any of you guys are shocked, online poker has been illegal since they passed the uigea or w/e. really what is surprising to me is that they havent seized more money.

    lol QFcluelessness
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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 8:02pm) in reply to OGHowie

     
    Originally Posted by OGHowie View Post

    anyone actually affected by this? anyone have their money seized? or was it just the processors?

    edit: ok seems like it's just the processors, why the fuck would they have their money in Washington? seems pretty obv it was time to gtfo


    the money was not in washington. they seized accounts elsewhere that had wired money/sent checks to players in Washington and charged them with violating the inter-state wire act.
     
  21. just-jOHnny just-jOHnny is offline I got nothin

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 8:48pm) in reply to P0KERDUUDE

     
    Originally Posted by P0KERDUUDE View Post

    notified by a witness
    what kind of douche would go and do that

    A ton of pissed off Absolute players...
    A ton of witness protection, on paper for illegal gamboling types...
    A ton of pissed off players i.e. horrendous player security, cheated, and or customer support...
    Any computer geeks the feds farm out, again tons...
    Pretty sure the man has a very well nit group of players, on every site and forum nowadays tho. Bet their push fold is pretty tight too...

    You poker 1%'ers really need to be more involved in all aspects of poker imo.
  22. shallowcal shallowcal is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 10:20pm) in reply to just-jOHnny

    our government is so ass backwards its not even funny
  23. zander zander is offline anomaly in his crotch

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 10:30pm) in reply to shallowcal

    Guess this explains the "yeah, so those withdrawals that have been in limbo for 50 days didn't work, want a paper check?" email from FTP today. This blows...
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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 10:41pm) in reply to johnny_B420

     
    Originally Posted by johnny_B420 View Post

    "Those bank accounts were used to issue checks that represented proceeds from online poker play at Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker, according to online poker players in the state of Washington who received them and spoke to government investigators"

    That makes me sick to know that some online players have snitched on us. Well, at least now I know where the money went and what has been the hold up.

    well its possible it could of been an underage player using his parents alias and the parents snithced... i mean makes more sense
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  25. haonhack haonhack is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 11:16pm) in reply to just-jOHnny

     
    Originally Posted by just-jOHnny View Post

    A ton of pissed off Absolute players...
    A ton of witness protection, on paper for illegal gamboling types...
    A ton of pissed off players i.e. horrendous player security, cheated, and or customer support...
    Any computer geeks the feds farm out, again tons...
    Pretty sure the man has a very well nit group of players, on every site and forum nowadays tho. Bet their push fold is pretty tight too...

    You poker 1%'ers really need to be more involved in all aspects of poker imo.

    i've been thinking about this lately. i have a very good understanding about how some of the 3 letter agencies work and this has to be the case
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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 11:20pm) in reply to haonhack

    how does it go again? i love this country but fuck our government...
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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 11:21pm) in reply to northkato

     
    Originally Posted by northkato View Post

    the feds probably spent 6.1million seizing that 5.1million.

    +1
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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 11:30pm) in reply to haonhack

    This is worrisome. I feel like if they are this determined to give online poker processors this hard of a time, what stops the government from pounding entirely on online poker at some point?
  29. atptim atptim is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 11:40pm) in reply to loose_cannon_jj

    If anyone lost any money related to this seizure I would like to know about it. I'm a lawyer here in Texas and am considering writing an article on this and the Kentucky case focusing on whether or not the feds or a state government has jurisdiction to act in these situations. I could use a personal angle (anonymous if you are worried about Team America).
  30. TrueMetalMan TrueMetalMan is offline

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    Jan 5th, 2011 (1/5/2011 11:52pm) in reply to atptim

    Dang. This explains a lot. I don't think I am shocked by this at all.
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