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  1. Nickdawgg Nickdawgg is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2008 (12/9/2008 12:42am)

    Got a tight aggressive image, not been very active last 10 hands or so, few reads on flatters other than not real impressed by their play, nothin horbbile but some obv mistakes thus far. Question is re-shove turn, play as is, or other suggestion?
    pokerstars Game #22752211652: Tournament #125328152, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit -
    Level XVIII (2500/5000) - 2008/12/08 23:45:48 ET
    Table '125328152 16' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: SFisch4 (102278 in chips)
    Seat 3: Stochastic (112828 in chips)
    Seat 4: zippersqrll (153547 in chips)
    Seat 5: Golfdish (139565 in chips)
    Seat 6: xxSPECSxx (150474 in chips)
    Seat 7: Nickdawgg (116192 in chips)
    Seat 8: Justin1836 (146688 in chips)
    Seat 9: I_SEK_U (264224 in chips)
    SFisch4: posts the ante 500
    Stochastic: posts the ante 500
    zippersqrll: posts the ante 500
    Golfdish: posts the ante 500
    xxSPECSxx: posts the ante 500
    Nickdawgg: posts the ante 500
    Justin1836: posts the ante 500
    I_SEK_U: posts the ante 500
    Golfdish: posts small blind 2500
    xxSPECSxx: posts big blind 5000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Nickdawgg [Qc Qs]
    Nickdawgg: raises 7577 to 12577
    Justin1836: folds
    I_SEK_U: folds
    SFisch4: folds
    Stochastic: calls 12577
    zippersqrll: calls 12577
    Golfdish: folds
    xxSPECSxx: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Kd 2s 3d]
    Nickdawgg: checks
    Stochastic: checks
    zippersqrll: checks
    *** TURN *** [Kd 2s 3d] [7d]
    Nickdawgg: checks
    Stochastic: checks
    zippersqrll: bets 25000
    Nickdawgg: calls 25000
    Stochastic: calls 25000
    *** RIVER *** [Kd 2s 3d 7d] [Ac]
    Nickdawgg: checks
    Stochastic: bets 74751 and is all-in
    zippersqrll: calls 74751
    Nickdawgg: folds
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Stochastic: shows [Qh Ad] (a pair of Aces)
    zippersqrll: shows [Ah 3h] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
    zippersqrll collected 273733 from pot
    Spacemizzle [observer] said, "dkaljeklqwej"
    Spacemizzle [observer] said, "ahaklhe"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 273733 | Rake 0
    Board [Kd 2s 3d 7d Ac]
    Seat 1: SFisch4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: Stochastic showed [Qh Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces
    Seat 4: zippersqrll (button) showed [Ah 3h] and won (273733) with two pair, Aces
    and Threes
    Seat 5: Golfdish (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: xxSPECSxx (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: Nickdawgg folded on the River
    Seat 8: Justin1836 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: I_SEK_U folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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  2. NeverScaredB NeverScaredB is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2008 (12/9/2008 12:48am) in reply to Nickdawgg

    Leading turn doesn't suck.
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  3. poisoneye1986 poisoneye1986 is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2008 (12/9/2008 12:56am) in reply to NeverScaredB

    what about leading flop
  4. NeverScaredB NeverScaredB is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2008 (12/9/2008 1:02am) in reply to poisoneye1986

    Leading flop does suck.
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  5. poisoneye1986 poisoneye1986 is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2008 (12/9/2008 1:14am) in reply to NeverScaredB

     
    Originally Posted by NeverScaredB View Post

    Leading flop does suck.

    i dont disagree but why does it suck?
  6. NeverScaredB NeverScaredB is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2008 (12/9/2008 1:51am) in reply to poisoneye1986

    Because you raised UTG and are leading a flop into two players. You're repping massive strength that never gets called by worse, but gets bluff-shoved off your equity by a diamond draw, and gets at least called by all of the hands that beat you. Cliff notes: gets semi-bluffed off your equity, gets called by every hand that beats you, gets called by no hands that you beat. QQ is not a good hand to bluff with.
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  7. wiseeguy wiseeguy is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2008 (12/9/2008 2:05am) in reply to NeverScaredB

    cont bet flop shove turn. badly played
  8. jirkman69 jirkman69 is offline

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    Dec 9th, 2008 (12/9/2008 2:07am) in reply to wiseeguy

    I'd play it the same way
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