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Final Table $33 $5K what's the best line here????

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  1. willmccoy willmccoy is online now Self-Proclaimed H00dRich BlacKK Fish

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    Aug 19th, 2012 (8/19/2012 5:44am)

    Merge, $33 Buy-in (800/1,600 blinds, 160 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
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    No real history with villan and had not opr'd by this time. Was constantly getting 3 bet by villan; And also my image was kinda spazzy and aggressive.......................... Also the table was going to be combined to final 9 after this hand.

    Hero (BTN): 39,714 (24.8 bb)
    SB: 56,441 (35.3 bb)
    BB: 77,371 (48.4 bb)
    MP: 31,036 (19.4 bb)
    CO: 50,226 (31.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with K Q
    2 folds, Hero raises to 3,200, SB raises to 8,980, BB folds, Hero ?????
  2. PaulSmiley PaulSmiley is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2012 (8/19/2012 9:03am) in reply to willmccoy

    im never folding, i might even 4 bet to pretend my hand is stronger than it is. then obv snap off an all in...reshoving is fine... I think i want to know if this player is capable of folding marginal hands like a9 etc. If there is zero fold erquity cause hes a tard folding is possible. but u said hes a buit ag so his range could be wide obv. His 3 bet is big so it kind of looks like he doesnt want to fold no matter...just tossed some thoughts out there... i cant say unless in the situation and have a certain read on the player
     
  3. Bisull Bisull is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2012 (8/19/2012 10:00am) in reply to PaulSmiley

    Weird spot given it's the last hand before the FT... with villains description he could be light here a lot, then it makes sense to reshove

    you're 2nd last in chips on this table, how about overall? Blinds going up soon? cause you're gonna be 9 handed for some time and if you think you can wait a little with your 20bb's then I think R/F here or just open shipping pre is best, little bit big to open jam 25bb's but with aggro players in the blinds and a strange dynamic like a FT bubble I could def see myself just bombing it here for 25bb's, especially if you're 7-9th in chips which it kinda looks like
     
  4. willmccoy willmccoy is online now Self-Proclaimed H00dRich BlacKK Fish

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    Aug 19th, 2012 (8/19/2012 10:08pm) in reply to Bisull

     
    Originally Posted by PaulSmiley View Post

    im never folding, i might even 4 bet to pretend my hand is stronger than it is. then obv snap off an all in...reshoving is fine... I think i want to know if this player is capable of folding marginal hands like a9 etc. If there is zero fold erquity cause hes a tard folding is possible. but u said hes a buit ag so his range could be wide obv. His 3 bet is big so it kind of looks like he doesnt want to fold no matter...just tossed some thoughts out there... i cant say unless in the situation and have a certain read on the player

     
    Originally Posted by Bisull View Post

    Weird spot given it's the last hand before the FT... with villains description he could be light here a lot, then it makes sense to reshove

    you're 2nd last in chips on this table, how about overall? Blinds going up soon? cause you're gonna be 9 handed for some time and if you think you can wait a little with your 20bb's then I think R/F here or just open shipping pre is best, little bit big to open jam 25bb's but with aggro players in the blinds and a strange dynamic like a FT bubble I could def see myself just bombing it here for 25bb's, especially if you're 7-9th in chips which it kinda looks like

    Thanks for the replies !!!!!!

    I ENDED UP 4 BET JAMMING HERE AS I FELT HE WOULD HAVE A TUFF TIME CALLING OFF HERE.
    Well i was wrong about that part LOL. But i was in pretty decent shape as villan called of with (44);Which i found to pretty odd to see LOL.........................!!!!!
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  5. elimherr elimherr is offline

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    Aug 20th, 2012 (8/20/2012 8:01am) in reply to willmccoy

    This is a play based off of game flow and table dynamics. If you feel he is 3 betting light then get it in. Also folding is not the worst depending on dynamics of coarse. Also i cant see if its suited or not but if its suited i am rarely folding.
     
  6. norv norv is offline Norm MacDonald of photoshop

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    Aug 20th, 2012 (8/20/2012 9:13am) in reply to elimherr

    he had you covered and i guess hes thinking well it is the ft bubble and i have more chippies so the program should do the right thing and let my 44 hold.................

    my view is he's a poof and should have folded to your jam but he may also say to himself im pot committed? which they all seem to say if you ask them in the chat afterwards
     
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    Aug 20th, 2012 (8/20/2012 9:59am) in reply to norv

    Your mostly going to be flipping or a little bit behind here, but definitely gotta ship. How many hands did you have with the villian before this?
    Edited By: tarzan4 Aug 20th, 2012 at 09:59 AM
     
  8. willmccoy willmccoy is online now Self-Proclaimed H00dRich BlacKK Fish

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    Aug 20th, 2012 (8/20/2012 2:31pm) in reply to tarzan4

     
    Originally Posted by elimherr View Post

    This is a play based off of game flow and table dynamics. If you feel he is 3 betting light then get it in. Also folding is not the worst depending on dynamics of coarse. Also i cant see if its suited or not but if its suited i am rarely folding.

     
    Originally Posted by norv View Post

    he had you covered and i guess hes thinking well it is the ft bubble and i have more chippies so the program should do the right thing and let my 44 hold.................

    my view is he's a poof and should have folded to your jam but he may also say to himself im pot committed? which they all seem to say if you ask them in the chat afterwards

     
    Originally Posted by tarzan4 View Post

    Your mostly going to be flipping or a little bit behind here, but definitely gotta ship. How many hands did you have with the villian before this?

    Im at work right now, but i think i had lie 85 hands or so on him. TBH i have been getting real lazy when i get caught up in hands in late mtt. I didn't opr the table as we were getting close to the FT, and felt i could wait until then. Yes it was s00ted and LOL@Norm haha 44 would never ever hold for me there!!!!! As far as the villan goes i think he called me out of spite since i had reshipped on him a few times earlier. Anyway i was loving his hand when the cards were flipped over; But obv the board felt otherwise.
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    Aug 22nd, 2012 (8/22/2012 7:47am) in reply to Frank Hough

    I'd be glad I was getting 3b here with this stack depth and KQo otb, id 4b cram it all day, esp if u have an agg image as mentioned in OP
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