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  1. br_buster br_buster is offline

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    Mar 22nd, 2011 (3/22/2011 8:22pm)

    ..$55 MTT - 10 left, u have 15 BBs when folded to you holding Ks2s in the small blind. Big blind has you covered (he has like 35 BBs). The average stack at this point is something like 26 BBs. Must be an easy openshove or am I missing something (regarding to ICM)?
    Thanks in advance;)

    edit: 5-handed (obv)
    Edited By: br_buster Mar 22nd, 2011 at 08:24 PM
     
  2. wackyJaxon wackyJaxon is offline Admin X

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    Mar 22nd, 2011 (3/22/2011 8:29pm) in reply to br_buster

    Wouldn't mind seeing some ICM analysis here. Its a tough spot for sure because of the final table bubble.
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  3. tyson219 tyson219 is offline Moderator

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    Mar 22nd, 2011 (3/22/2011 8:43pm) in reply to wackyJaxon

    Standard shove if not for the FT bubble situation. ICM could come into play if there are at least 1-2 stacks shorter than you at the two tables. Do you have the HH -- it will at least have the stack sizes for your table?
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  4. br_buster br_buster is offline

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    Mar 22nd, 2011 (3/22/2011 8:58pm) in reply to tyson219

    i'm currently in a sesh. will look it up soon thou

    pokerstars Game #59595278433: Tournament #413010681, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIII (5000/10000) - 2011/03/22 4:11:42 CET [2011/03/21 23:11:42 ET]
    Table '413010681 75' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 2: Markudre (143761 in chips)
    Seat 3: Zimmy86 (338686 in chips)
    Seat 5: danloulou (145595 in chips)
    Seat 7: automann1980 (216093 in chips)
    Seat 8: tucci 007 (279507 in chips)
    Markudre: posts the ante 1000
    Zimmy86: posts the ante 1000
    danloulou: posts the ante 1000
    automann1980: posts the ante 1000
    tucci 007: posts the ante 1000
    Markudre: posts small blind 5000
    Zimmy86: posts big blind 10000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Markudre [2s Ks]

    if i remember correctly, I was 9/10 at that point.
     
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    Mar 22nd, 2011 (3/22/2011 9:04pm) in reply to br_buster

    eff icm at this point. u trying to come in 9th or 1st? k2s seems like way to strng of a hand to just fold cause yer scared of bubblking the FT. i can see an argument for folding the bottom of our shoving range but k2s just seems way to strong.
     
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    Mar 22nd, 2011 (3/22/2011 9:06pm) in reply to cream420

     
    Originally Posted by cream420 View Post

    eff icm at this point. u trying to come in 9th or 1st? k2s seems like way to strng of a hand to just fold cause yer scared of bubblking the FT. i can see an argument for folding the bottom of our shoving range but k2s just seems way to strong.

    Generally, I agree. But if there are 2-3 stacks with <5bbs and they are about to come into the blinds, it's worth considering.

    Given the fact that you were 9/10, snap shove.
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    Mar 22nd, 2011 (3/22/2011 9:07pm) in reply to br_buster

    i was in the exact same situation in an 8 dlr 6 max turbo on stars w/ 7 left.. i was at around 14 BB and shoved K3 o and ran into AK bvb.. but i believe the difference there is whats in the pot pre. my ship was probably more valuable than your situation being a turbo,. i too get lost in these spots so im curious to know the right move
    Edited By: ctillisc Mar 22nd, 2011 at 09:08 PM
  8. br_buster br_buster is offline

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    Mar 22nd, 2011 (3/22/2011 9:29pm) in reply to tyson219

     
    Originally Posted by tyson219 View Post

    Generally, I agree. But if there are 2-3 stacks with <5bbs and they are about to come into the blinds, it's worth considering.

    Given the fact that you were 9/10, snap shove.

    i totally agree. thanks for the replies:)
    the fact, that the only smaller stack has like 13BBs at the other table makes this an easy shove in my opinion.
    have been arguing w/ a nitty friend about this hand. he drives me nutz.
    Edited By: br_buster Mar 22nd, 2011 at 09:32 PM
     
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    Mar 22nd, 2011 (3/22/2011 9:58pm) in reply to br_buster

    shoving and not thinking twice about it
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