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final table bubble, what do you guys do in this spot?

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  1. alekos alekos is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2007 (4/17/2007 9:01pm)

    button shoved on my big blind on the previous round as well, there are 12 players left in a $16.50 buy in tournament where 1st takes $1350, 12th takes $64, and when this hand occured i was in 10th place, what do you guys do here?

    pokerstars Game #9475914612: Tournament #47725790, $15.00+$1.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2007/04/17 - 20:37:50 (ET)
    Table '47725790 30' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: EDS 86 (70366 in chips)
    Seat 2: mar22 (41351 in chips)
    Seat 3: dude904 (39503 in chips)
    Seat 4: PieroC (15597 in chips)
    Seat 7: FloppdMyNuts (97375 in chips)
    Seat 8: apateonas (21189 in chips)
    EDS 86: posts the ante 100
    mar22: posts the ante 100
    dude904: posts the ante 100
    PieroC: posts the ante 100
    FloppdMyNuts: posts the ante 100
    apateonas: posts the ante 100
    FloppdMyNuts: posts small blind 1000
    apateonas: posts big blind 2000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to apateonas [Ac 6h]
    PieroC said, "n1"
    EDS 86: folds
    mar22: folds
    dude904: folds
    PieroC: raises 13497 to 15497 and is all-in
    FloppdMyNuts: folds
    apateonas: ???
  2. JechtSphere JechtSphere is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2007 (4/17/2007 9:03pm) in reply to alekos

    rofl

    eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasy fold
  3. NLChamp_401 NLChamp_401 is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2007 (4/17/2007 9:08pm) in reply to alekos

    this is a joke post right?
  4. NetFan44 NetFan44 is online now

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    Apr 17th, 2007 (4/17/2007 9:20pm) in reply to alekos

    it's real close actually, his range might be ATC but if you call and lose you have 0 fold equity and are in the blinds next 2 hands.

    i would prob fold A6 but call with 77+, KQs, AT+
  5. Ugottook420 Ugottook420 is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2007 (4/17/2007 9:21pm) in reply to NLChamp_401

    These guys prolly dont get deep often, if they think its such a bad question. But I dont think that anyone here can give you the right answer to your question. It all depends on the way this guy has been playing. The fact that he pushed button round before wouldnt persuade me at all (I think alot of people let it, MISTAKE). I make that call at least 50% of the time, but as I said I cant say if you should have called or folded to little information.
     
  6. SCTrojans SCTrojans is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2007 (4/17/2007 9:21pm) in reply to alekos

    This definitely is not easy. You are well ahead of his range, and many MANY players shove any 2 cards in this spot. I think this is one of those situations where neither decision is bad, although I probably fold with the size of your stack.

    EDIT: I love it when people make "rooooooooofl easy" and "joke post right?" -- when they clearly don't have a clue. Makes me smile.
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  7. HeyNiceAscot HeyNiceAscot is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2007 (4/17/2007 9:23pm) in reply to alekos

    This may not be as easy as some of you are making it seem. You're ahead of his range for sure, but I don't really know the math so I'd have to see some stats before knowing whether or not call is "correct". I think I may take a gamble here...anyone else?
  8. WiCane WiCane is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2007 (4/17/2007 9:25pm) in reply to alekos

    I think its a call if he has been pushing on the button a lot. I think you are ahead of his range, you are short on chips yourself.
     
  9. matt7898 matt7898 is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2007 (4/17/2007 9:40pm) in reply to WiCane

    Its defenetley marginal but i think because your so short you have to fold if you were a bigger stack id say call
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    Apr 17th, 2007 (4/17/2007 9:45pm) in reply to alekos

    I think I call with A8o+, A9s+, KQ, and 66+

    If he has been looser in his pushes I would say A6s+, A7o+, KJo+, 44+
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  11. eddie24b eddie24b is offline

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    Apr 17th, 2007 (4/17/2007 9:57pm) in reply to threeven

    first id like to say im glad the OP got some good responses instead of the first two donks(so freaking sick of a guy who has what he thinks is a good ? and idiots on this site shit all over it- to you guys you suck period gtfo) and i think i fold here even if you are ahead its not by much id rather push my chips off than calling here imo and push a few hands my self after this one gg bro

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  12. NLChamp_401 NLChamp_401 is offline

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    Apr 18th, 2007 (4/18/2007 2:14am) in reply to SCTrojans

    you're kidding right? He wants to make the final table, his blind is coming up next, Fold, and wait on a better two and/or better spot. I don't care if he shoves any two at this point you can't call with A6 here. Plain and simple.
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    Apr 18th, 2007 (4/18/2007 2:16am) in reply to eddie24b

    and as for you eddie.....apparently you're a donk too if we have the same insight on the hand.
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    Apr 18th, 2007 (4/18/2007 2:18am) in reply to NLChamp_401

    i dunno, maybe the OP wants to give himself the best chance to win and could care less about making the final table as a short stack.
  15. NLChamp_401 NLChamp_401 is offline

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    Apr 18th, 2007 (4/18/2007 2:21am) in reply to NetFan44

    true, I just assumed since he posted the difference in 1st and 12th that he just wanted to get to the final table and hope to get lucky there if he did happen to be short stacked.
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    Apr 18th, 2007 (4/18/2007 2:26am) in reply to SCTrojans

    I def agree with SC. One thing u need to consider is how important is making the ft and taking 9th or making the FT with a chance to take the tourney down. I think i would call here bc his shoving range is any two suited connectors and up. But then again thats me and im a fuckin donk

    bb22
     
  17. nadatell nadatell is offline

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    Apr 18th, 2007 (4/18/2007 3:02am) in reply to NLChamp_401

    his blind is coming up next

    He's in the bb

    I agree fold it's close but I'd rather be pushing than calling here.

    Steve

    Edited to add:

    just assumed since he posted the difference in 1st and 12th that he just wanted to get to the final table and hope to get lucky there if he did happen to be short stacked.

    when someone posts the difference between 1st and 12th it means they want to win and winning means making marginal calls like this, if he posted the diff between 12th and 9th then he wants to make the FT.
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    Apr 18th, 2007 (4/18/2007 3:47am) in reply to NLChamp_401

    CALL CALL CALL ALL DAY LONG..........easy money
     
  19. NLChamp_401 NLChamp_401 is offline

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    Apr 18th, 2007 (4/18/2007 4:23am) in reply to nadatell

    Excuse me for not specifying the obvious that it was his small blind that was coming up next which means he has a whole new round of cards to see for free and better position on the table to push after that.

    So if you really want to be an a$$hole and decipher my posts than go ahead.
    GG, but at least you're saying you agree on the fold.
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