seriously, is this thread worth reading?

if not, cliff notes plz

i forgive him

 

Originally Posted by ginwilly

i'll try cliffnotes for ya

jj apologized again. he says he sees the error of his ways and won't do it anymore and this time he really means it

a lot of people wished him luck to turn things around

some people want to kill him or atleast do bodily harm

people who have been directly stolen from (we have all been indirectly stolen from) are not forgiving so easy

nutswingers started out saying how great jj is until they were thrashed and trashed and pretty much went away (for now)

multi-accounting is bad except for the moral and ethic bankrupt who still see nothing wrong

jj answered a lot of questions except the tough ones or the ones that would truly show contrition and wants to help the poker sites with security

standard

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Originally Posted by JJProdigy

 

Originally Posted by SpankyHamm

 

Originally Posted by GoldenDomer9

My primary question is why don't you take it upon yourself to lay everything out on the line, as opposed to simply stating that you will answer all questions asked of you? Reason being, there are certainly issues within your vast multi-accounting experience that you, and only you, are aware of. As such, none of us could even stumble upon questions that would address such items.

It is my opinion you're trying to come across as one who will reveal all by "answering anything that is asked", but that just simply cannot be all of it. Your apology, attempt #3 or #4 or whatever it is, spends a fair amount of time explaining why you did it and why it was wrong and why you won't continue; however, that part should consist of a mere paragraph or two in my opinion. You need to lay it all on the line, yourself, in tremendous detail, to even sniff some sort of credibility. Quite frankly, not remembering is not acceptable. Spend days, weeks or months compiling data about what you did and lay out a plan to make it right.

A simple "I'm sorry and won't do it anymore" doesn't cut it. You shouldn't even have to be prompted by questions, you should answer everything we could dream up and then some. Until then, and quite likely not even then, you're a selfish fraud that only says what the masses want to hear when your own circumstances require it.

From what I can tell, he is attempting to make money off of giving away this information. If true - that should tell you enough about his character and his sincerity. He is not going to give up making money.

What?? This clearly isn't it at all. I would like to first offer any information I have to the sites, and then after that, evaluate with them if I should make a detailed post and make a thread. I feel that this would be the best and most logical decision for the poker community.

Quote: "What?? This clearly isn't it at all. I would like to first offer any information I have to the sites, and then after that, evaluate with them if I should make a detailed post and make a thread. I feel that this would be the best and most logical decision for the poker community."

I don't want to tell you how to think/feel, but seriously...you can't honestly believe that this move is in the best interest of the poker community? Everyone you protect and all the secrets that you have yet to disclose continue to go unsaid...this only benefits you and those you serve to protect. You can't just give us what we already know, withold what we have an idea about, and then talk of starting anew. This sounds more like remodeling than "a fresh start"...

If you consider just the people who have benefited from your unethical online behavior as the "poker community", then yes...however, this would be the ONLY way it could be considered "the best and most logical decision for the poker community." Otherwise, this reeks of gameplanning.

still going and JJ hasnt said anything in like 5 pages

 

Originally Posted by JJProdigy

 

Originally Posted by poncho veelo

Okay, you said you would answer questions. Here goes:

1st question: Who is FishOnTilt?

2nd question: Who is Dont Taze Me Bro

3rd question: Are the above players the same person

4th question: Did you play as any of the players above, and if not, are you those players?

5th question: Please name the charity you will be donating the winnings you and your crew have cheated out of everyone

6th question: Have you reported yourself to the IRS yet?

1) FishOnTilt is a 16 year old kid who started in the game very closely to what I did.
2) Taze is an 18 year old kid who is very very cocky and rubs off as very annoying and pompus, but he has a lot of talent as well.
3) No
4) I am not these players
I have paid taxes on my winnings. I don't like being accused otherwise falsely.

I can't sort through all this crap, but I did make it to page 3 and liked the partial answer to question 4.

 

Originally Posted by AUTigers99

still going and JJ hasnt said anything in like 5 pages

i think that he did a pretty good job, it was rapid fire for about 3days

ok JJ here goes...

I believe everyone makes mistakes and deserves second chances. None of us are perfect. Having said that, do you honestly expect anyone to believe anything you say?

You pulled off an amazing feat JJ. You have most people thinking you were just a "mentor" to a couple of young kids. I am not in the "most" category. You already proved to me just how smart you really are. I know there is no way you can come clean and truly tell everyone the ENTIRE truth because if you did you would be hated even more than you are now. I bet you got a great laugh while it lasted, but now that you got people life bans you feel guilty again (cough cough).

Imagine if this community found out how many accounts (poker, aim, email) you really have. They wouldn't be so forgiving then would they JJ?

 

Originally Posted by Claw1980

 

Originally Posted by AJKHoosier1

my 'quitting smoking' or my 'mood' have nothing to do with my posts in this thread. im actually in a pretty good mood right now, and wasnt in a 'bad mood' when i made those posts. i could be having the best day/week/month of my life, and still wouldnt pull any punches when it comes to speaking my mind on this kid. you can call it immature because i say "fuck" a lot, but id be stunned if im not saying what the majority of people who JJ has affected are thinking. if not, they should be. theres nothing 'moody' or 'immature' about it. this is coming from someone who just felt the need to issue an apology to anyone i was a douchebag towards recently, and yet i feel fully justified in every word ive said here.

if i have to phrase my posts twice as strongly just to counter anyone delusional enough to be encouraging towards this scumbag, then im more than happy to. if i were to read my replies in this thread in 10 yrs, im highly confident i wouldnt regret a word.

a resounding +1

agreed

MAing is bad.

 

Originally Posted by JJProdigy

 

Originally Posted by MarkFSU1

JJ

how did you cash out / how did you get the money you had won out of the poker sites and into your bank account? did you transfer money from you account to an account of one of your friends/stakees and then get the money from them?

I never cashed out. Whatever I won, I invested (and lost) in backing. People overvalue my networth extremely.

So you never cashed out, yet you paid taxes on all your winnings????? Hmmmm......that doesn't seem to add up..........

Maing is bad mmmkay!.