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Flop play QQ BTN w/103bbs facing X/R from passive player

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  1. BscHons BscHons is offline

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    Jun 30th, 2012 (6/30/2012 11:16am)

    unchupie = 29/13 151 hs AGG FREQ. 21% - unchupie is limping a wide range from UTG here, but he's clearly not an aggressive player.

    Interested to know what everyone is doing in this spot. A passive player X/R us on a connected board, and we are deep with an overpair.

    Generally, 29/13 type players don't make moves, and we should take their aggression seriously. However, we can't rule that out, so I feel like we have to call and re-evaluate the board and his action on the turn IP. Thoughts? Anyone just folding here?

    pokerstars Hand #82615548758: Tournament #577769284, €4.50+€0.50 EUR Hold'em No Limit - Level X (200/400) - 2012/06/29 15:40:29 WET [2012/06/29 10:40:29 ET]
    Table '577769284 19' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: unchipie (40493 in chips)
    Seat 2: vaness17270 (47553 in chips)
    Seat 3: kaz_mooon (44359 in chips)
    Seat 4: BscHons (41265 in chips)
    Seat 5: juan mickael (7926 in chips)
    Seat 6: testuo79 (8751 in chips)
    unchipie: posts the ante 50
    vaness17270: posts the ante 50
    kaz_mooon: posts the ante 50
    BscHons: posts the ante 50
    juan mickael: posts the ante 50
    testuo79: posts the ante 50
    juan mickael: posts small blind 200
    testuo79: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to BscHons [Qs Qh]
    unchipie: calls 400
    vaness17270: calls 400
    kaz_mooon: folds
    BscHons: raises 1599 to 1999
    juan mickael: folds
    testuo79: folds
    unchipie: calls 1599
    vaness17270: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Tc 6h 9d]
    unchipie: checks
    BscHons: bets 2222
    unchipie: raises 2978 to 5200
    BscHons...
  2. EricWRX EricWRX is offline

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    Jun 30th, 2012 (6/30/2012 1:48pm) in reply to BscHons

    i'd never just fold vs anyone, although i probably should. Def not against this guy though..just call and see what happens on the turn
     
  3. AjintOrange AjintOrange is offline

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    Jul 3rd, 2012 (7/3/2012 11:02pm) in reply to EricWRX

    I think a fold is right here.

    Calling is just going to put you on the road to losing a ton of chips.

    Given your read and the action, he is holding 87 or trips a large percentage of the time. If you convince yourself to call on the flop, how will you fold on the turn? No card will scare him if he has trips or a straight, so he'll bet for sure. And if you tell yourself that QQ is worth calling here, what card will come that makes you fold later?

    You'll just end up calling three straight streets and losing half your stack.
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