Originally Posted by Dead Money Dom

just start lol'ing and pretending like everyone is a retard for not realizing it was a level so you can save face.

I think its fine bc its very well thought out but even thought parts his range that bet the flop I think that you are ahead of enough of his worse over pairs/ sometimes air but seems pretty unlikely given ur percetion of him. 3 betting pf here for sure defines his range and if you fell its made of of mostly mid pp's once he flats i think you can atleast call once bc if he can ahve 55 and 88 he can have 66,77 and 99 as well. But given how he perceives you what do u think he makes of your range to 3 bet pf?

LOL at ppl think rock has been winning bc he runs good. Hes at a Final Tablesssssssssssssssss every night. Funny how ppl hate on others when they become successful. I mean really who hasnt reshoved air and won a 60/40 and ppl are gonna talk crap about that WOW.

 

Originally Posted by ONEILLsurfer03

LOL at ppl think rock has been winning bc he runs good. Hes at a Final Tablesssssssssssssssss every night. Funny how ppl hate on others when they become successful. I mean really who hasnt reshoved air and won a 60/40 and ppl are gonna talk crap about that WOW.

They are talking crap b/c he wants to check fold AA on any flop.....

i generally agree with u poker69 but i give Mike credit in the fact that he is very intuitive and is good at figureing out what ppl are doing in the moment. That being said if he has a gut feeling i dont think hes wrong to go with it. I mean maybe if his play isnt perfect inavacuum it doesnt really matter bc in the moment he had an insticnt.

 

Originally Posted by MarkFSU1

 

Originally Posted by Duffy08

 

Originally Posted by TheGfactor

all that running above expectation if getting to your head man

fyp

be careful if u say this, icudonk will come in here and get his panties all in a bunch

what's with all the bitchassness? seriously though Mark, maybe you should hire a social skills coach
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Originally Posted by icufish

 

Originally Posted by MarkFSU1

 

Originally Posted by Duffy08

 

Originally Posted by TheGfactor

all that running above expectation if getting to your head man

fyp

be careful if u say this, icudonk will come in here and get his panties all in a bunch

what's with all the bitchassness? seriously though Mark, maybe you should hire a social skills coach
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you're definitely leveling yourself; overanalyzing the situation and perceived images and ranges

 

Originally Posted by rock3656

I feel like maybe I should reiterate although it really doesnt matter any ways, but when I checked the flop my plan wasnt to Check/fold it was obviously to check shove or some variation of the sort.. When he bet the flop it really got me thinking about what he would bet this flop with that I beat. Why would he open up the betting to a highly aggressive player again in a 3 bet pot with a hand I beat? I should prob just bet/call go broke w/e on the flop. I really felt that he percieved my range as big pairs that wont fold. So why would he bet the flop with anything that didnt beat a pair of Aces? He might have KK some percentage of the time, or he might just be fucking around and not playing well who knows. All i know is that when he bet the flop I felt i was beat thats all that really matters to me. I didnt go with my gut though as I called the flop bet and folded to a turn bet, the card was a 9. That would be cool if Jordan told us what he had, would be interesting to see. Anyways flamez away its no big deal to me and its usually the same kids in every thread talking shit who wont ever make it in this game, gl all.

i really feel that 90% of the ppl replying to this and flaming are people that have no idea what level of thinking is going on here and dont understand the dynamics of the situation. oh cool AA, not a paired board on the flop ship it in or ur an idiot. na, i see exactly what ur saying and i think its just you understanding the game way better than most people. looking at this HH gives me a better level and understanding of thinking that goes through a lot of these top players heads. btw sick front page article u sick mother f*cker

 

Originally Posted by lil BOLLOCKS

 

Originally Posted by rock3656

I feel like maybe I should reiterate although it really doesnt matter any ways, but when I checked the flop my plan wasnt to Check/fold it was obviously to check shove or some variation of the sort.. When he bet the flop it really got me thinking about what he would bet this flop with that I beat. Why would he open up the betting to a highly aggressive player again in a 3 bet pot with a hand I beat? I should prob just bet/call go broke w/e on the flop. I really felt that he percieved my range as big pairs that wont fold. So why would he bet the flop with anything that didnt beat a pair of Aces? He might have KK some percentage of the time, or he might just be fucking around and not playing well who knows. All i know is that when he bet the flop I felt i was beat thats all that really matters to me. I didnt go with my gut though as I called the flop bet and folded to a turn bet, the card was a 9. That would be cool if Jordan told us what he had, would be interesting to see. Anyways flamez away its no big deal to me and its usually the same kids in every thread talking shit who wont ever make it in this game, gl all.

i really feel that 90% of the ppl replying to this and flaming are people that have no idea what level of thinking is going on here and dont understand the dynamics of the situation. oh cool AA, not a paired board on the flop ship it in or ur an idiot. na, i see exactly what ur saying and i think its just you understanding the game way better than most people. looking at this HH gives me a better level and understanding of thinking that goes through a lot of these top players heads. btw sick front page article u sick mother f*cker

Um, no. First of all this hand is not that complicated, and actually quite simple. Most of the people replying are using the available information to deduce that Rock completely leveled himself in this hand. Rock is a friend of mine and we talk poker a good bit and he definitely understands the game a good deal, but in this spot, it is simply not necessary to think that deeply.

We 3 bet an aggro player, and checked the flop, there is no reason he should think we have such a strong hand as we do in this spot, ESPECIALLY because with Rock's image, he usually can play his big hands aggressively and get action. There are plenty of hands Jordankickz can be bluffing with or thinking he is valuebetting (QQ/KK etc). When Rock check/calls the flop, he is repping a range of marginally strong hands, and jordankickz is very likely to think he can barrel the turn and possibly river to get folds from basically Rock's entire range.

Thinking about folding this hand at any point postflop is just silly, as we only lose to a few very unlikely 2 card combinations. Given that there are many more combinations of cards he can have that we beat, the only thing to think about in this hand should be how to extract maximum value. If he does have us beat, then it is simply unlucky as the hands beating us are such a small % of his overall range, and since it's online poker, there is no way we are gonna get a physical read or anything else to help us narrow his range. Thus, we must play to maximize EV against what we percieve his entire range to be, and that range should include a lot more than just sets.

Thinking this deeply about a spot like this is just getting yourself into trouble. Poker is a very complex and intricate game, but at times, it can be quite simple. This is an example of the latter.

Check fold is unthinkable. I bet flop.

This thread is pretty funny. Seems like being a nit is pretty fucking good right now.

Results?

 

Originally Posted by cotchery89

I lol'd for 5 minutes looking at that michael jackson clip....props to U....and its fun to flat AA

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