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Flopped the nut str8. Check or bet?

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  1. trainwreck13 trainwreck13 is offline

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    Sep 1st, 2010 (9/1/2010 10:46am)

    This hand took place in a live $2/$5 cash game at the Bellagio.

    Picked-up Qs9s in the bb ($900 deep) and checked behind the b+5, b+3 and bu limpers (the sb folded). Each of my opps had around 100bb. The flop came KhJhTh and it was my turn to act.

    Check or bet?

    The only comment I will make bc this forum focuses primarily on on-line play is that in these loose live games, any one who touched this flop isn't going to fold to a pot sized bet.
  2. ScottBrewr99 ScottBrewr99 is offline

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    Sep 1st, 2010 (9/1/2010 10:50am) in reply to trainwreck13

    bet
  3. Osakwv Osakwv is offline

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    Sep 1st, 2010 (9/1/2010 10:53am) in reply to ScottBrewr99

    Well, a few things that I notice immediately:

    That's not the nut straight.. The nuts would be the AhQh...

    You have $22 in the middle when you check.
    You may have flopped a straight, but you have to worry about a potential flush. Any of the three limpers could hold a number of hands, any heart or piece of that board and you're right in assuming they wouldn't fold to a pot sized bet.

    OOP, I'd probably check. Though argument can easily be made to bet and see where you stand. I'm not sure with a board like that I would increase the pot size just to have a heart fall or someone pick up the ace-high straight.
  4. grimshaw819 grimshaw819 is offline

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    Sep 1st, 2010 (9/1/2010 10:55am) in reply to ScottBrewr99

    Correct me if I am wrong but wouldnt an AQ hand be the nut straight?

    Also bet all day long!
  5. trainwreck13 trainwreck13 is offline

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    Sep 1st, 2010 (9/1/2010 11:08am) in reply to grimshaw819

    Oops! You're all quite right. 2nd nut str8.
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  6. okse54 okse54 is offline

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    Sep 1st, 2010 (9/1/2010 1:58pm) in reply to trainwreck13

    lead out
     
  7. Meerkat Meerkat is offline

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    Sep 1st, 2010 (9/1/2010 2:13pm) in reply to okse54

    I'd bet like $18 and take it from there. I'm struggling to think what id do if someone raised me, id guess it would depend on reads etc
  8. matze_widi matze_widi is offline

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    Sep 1st, 2010 (9/1/2010 2:15pm) in reply to okse54

    def bet, i mean u floped a str8 but it s a ugly board for u...
    what happened in the hand anyway??
     
  9. phyzer23 phyzer23 is offline

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    Sep 1st, 2010 (9/1/2010 2:18pm) in reply to matze_widi

    betting
     
  10. l3iRdMaN l3iRdMaN is offline

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    Sep 1st, 2010 (9/1/2010 3:54pm) in reply to Osakwv

     
    Originally Posted by Osakwv View Post

    Well, a few things that I notice immediately:

    That's not the nut straight.. The nuts would be the AhQh...

    You have $22 in the middle when you check.
    You may have flopped a straight, but you have to worry about a potential flush. Any of the three limpers could hold a number of hands, any heart or piece of that board and you're right in assuming they wouldn't fold to a pot sized bet.

    OOP, I'd probably check. Though argument can easily be made to bet and see where you stand. I'm not sure with a board like that I would increase the pot size just to have a heart fall or someone pick up the ace-high straight.

    definitely not this.... start out by betting and go from there
     
  11. Flopnuts1 Flopnuts1 is offline

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    Sep 1st, 2010 (9/1/2010 5:20pm) in reply to l3iRdMaN

    Fire until the board pairs or another heart hits. Re-evaluate if you get raised/see a gross turn or river.
  12. VitoRoma VitoRoma is offline

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    Sep 1st, 2010 (9/1/2010 9:13pm) in reply to Flopnuts1

    fire and get ready to get re popped. fold and take it or call and pray
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    Sep 2nd, 2010 (9/2/2010 12:08am) in reply to Flopnuts1

     
    Originally Posted by Flopnuts1 View Post

    Fire until the board pairs or another heart hits. Re-evaluate if you get raised/see a gross turn or river.

    THIS IS CORRECT
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