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Flopped set against other big stack, how do you play it?

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  1. Avery01 Avery01 is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 11:16pm)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #8768557551: Daily Double - A (66109766), Table 103 - 120/240 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:56:15 ET - 2008/11/01
    Seat 1: Las Vegas Road (8,140)
    Seat 2: Rolling High 96 (541)
    Seat 3: VegasCash (3,865)
    Seat 4: Avery01 (16,490)
    Seat 5: d0ubl3t213 (3,685)
    Seat 6: stupot108 (8,904)
    Seat 7: vaw117 (16,460)
    Seat 8: oman57 (3,742)
    Seat 9: itsallmebc (10,895)
    Las Vegas Road antes 25
    Rolling High 96 antes 25
    VegasCash antes 25
    Avery01 antes 25
    d0ubl3t213 antes 25
    stupot108 antes 25
    vaw117 antes 25
    oman57 antes 25
    itsallmebc antes 25
    VegasCash posts the small blind of 120
    Avery01 posts the big blind of 240
    The button is in seat #2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Avery01 [4c 4s]
    d0ubl3t213 folds
    stupot108 folds
    vaw117 raises to 480
    oman57 folds
    itsallmebc folds
    Las Vegas Road folds
    Rolling High 96 folds
    VegasCash folds
    Avery01 calls 240
    *** FLOP *** [4d 3h Qh]
    Avery01 checks
    vaw117 bets 1,305
    Avery01 raises to 5,220
    vaw117 raises to 15,955, and is all in
    Avery01 ???

    1. Should I have check raised so large on the flop?

    2. What would you do here? If it matters, this paid 216 and there were 361 left.

    Only info I have on villain is that he overbet shoved pre-flop w/ JJ from SB when the other big stack had raised from the button. Blinds were 100/200, button open raised to 600 (had 12k behind) and villian here shoved a larger stack from SB, showing his JJ after button folded.
  2. JLucky34 JLucky34 is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 11:20pm) in reply to Avery01

    this HAS to be a joke thread

    plz
  3. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 11:20pm) in reply to Avery01

    Flop C/R is a little big, but nothing drastically bad.

    You're not seriously thinking of folding here, are you? Vaw's got AQ, KQ, KK, AA...something you crush...the enormous majority of the time.
     
  4. Admiral Admiral is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 11:21pm) in reply to Avery01

    dude come on
  5. the_snail03 the_snail03 is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 11:22pm) in reply to Avery01

    no you shouldn't have check raised that much on the flop, prolly lead into him instead but w.e. As played instasupersnappumpfistcall.
     
  6. shipitthisway shipitthisway is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 11:24pm) in reply to the_snail03

    Fold. Wait for better spot.
     
  7. OnTheRail OnTheRail is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 11:31pm) in reply to Avery01

    I like the big reraise....makes your hand look like a weak Q or a flush draw that you are trying to force a fold. Well played I think, never fold obviously
     
  8. Adam013085 Adam013085 is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 11:37pm) in reply to Avery01

    i really hope u r gonna say u called here....
  9. Mojo Mojo is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 11:43pm) in reply to Adam013085

    highfivemonitorcall.
  10. wck117 wck117 is offline

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    Nov 1st, 2008 (11/1/2008 11:53pm) in reply to Mojo

    wow man this is tough i dunno maybe take ur chances and make the call
  11. Sigmapoker Sigmapoker is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 12:20am) in reply to Avery01

    If you wanted a lot of legit responses maybe put your ??? after vaw117 bets 1,305. I'm trying to say that I'd raise to about 3k or so but all I can think is Is this thread going to shame every 'can I fold KK here?' thread ever posted.
  12. darkcheck_ darkcheck_ is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 12:25am) in reply to Avery01

    LOL JESUS....FLOP C/R IS WAY TOO BIG AND ESSENTIALLY COMMITS ANY THINKING PLAYER

    HAVE YOU CALLED YET ?
     
  13. darkcheck_ darkcheck_ is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 12:26am) in reply to Sigmapoker

     
    Originally Posted by Sigmapoker View Post

    If you wanted a lot of legit responses maybe put your ??? after vaw117 bets 1,305. I'm trying to say that I'd raise to about 3k or so but all I can think is Is this thread going to shame every 'can I fold KK here?' thread ever posted.

    IMPOSSIBLE BUT THIS IS CLOSE/LAUGHABLE
     
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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 12:32am) in reply to darkcheck_

    MBN to flop a set and get a guy to go all in...

    Then u seriously come here and ask what u should do??? LMAO!! MBN!!
     
  15. YouAreWet YouAreWet is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 12:46am) in reply to TwinMSU

    He has quad threes here 9/10 times.
  16. okse54 okse54 is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 1:19am) in reply to Avery01

    i think u should just call the 1305 and quad mine, check/f turn if u miss
     
  17. Pghfan987 Pghfan987 is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 1:31am) in reply to okse54

     
    Originally Posted by okse54 View Post

    i think u should just call the 1305 and quad mine, check/f turn if u miss

    LOOOOL.
    660 1
  18. itch1515 itch1515 is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 1:44am) in reply to ayecido

    God help the poor newbie who asks a dumb question on pocketfives.
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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 1:52am) in reply to Avery01

    lead the flop, shove if he raises/call if he shoves... Let me guess he had the flush draw and sucked out... if he had QQ, fire up another tourney...
  20. ayecido ayecido is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 1:53am) in reply to Avery01

    Seriously, though. No reason to post this. No reason at all. You ran into QQ? GG. Move onto the next tournament. This is so fuckingsnapcallhighfivemonitordobackflipsinyourbas ementsuperyduperyeasiestcallofallgoddamntime.
  21. selder1 selder1 is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 5:11am) in reply to Avery01

    I do like the idea of flatting the 1305 initially to quad mine, but I think you should just open fold the flop instead and proceed to fold to cash.
     
  22. LightbringerAA LightbringerAA is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 6:59am) in reply to selder1

    you should fold, he obv has QQ....joke thread?
  23. tmleafs1967 tmleafs1967 is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 7:15am) in reply to Avery01

    Snapcall, hands like these are the reason we play poker, we got the EXACT situation we were looking for with a set. If you run into a bigger set it's unfortunate but we can never let this hand go on this board ever.

    i think u should just call the 1305 and quad mine, check/f turn if u miss


    This made me spit my coffe out...lol quadmining a sport the whole family can enjoy.

    classic.
  24. xxCelticFCxx xxCelticFCxx is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 8:24am) in reply to Avery01

    INSTA FOLD EVEN WITH THE OPTION TO CHECK
    HE HAS QQ 100% HERE
    CHUCK IT AND MOVE ON
    GL AT TEH TABLEZ
    551 
  25. needmoney needmoney is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 8:57am) in reply to shipitthisway

     
    Originally Posted by shipitthisway View Post

    Fold. Wait for better spot.

    ^^^^^
  26. trailrated trailrated is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 9:00am) in reply to needmoney

    Fold pre. As played, I love quad mining without a minor's hat, pick axe or flash light. Go Dark with no tools.
  27. P0ker H0 P0ker H0 is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 11:39am) in reply to JLucky34

    I doubt hes min raising qq so i would assume you have the nuts on this flop. Check/Raise is fine and snap call a shove.
     
  28. zigi zigi is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 1:07pm) in reply to YouAreWet

    Wait let me think.....
     
  29. GRIMYOAF GRIMYOAF is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 1:26pm) in reply to zigi

    I never thought I would ever hear anything better than the "aggressive call" but quadmining takes the cake.
  30. Avery01 Avery01 is offline

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    Nov 2nd, 2008 (11/2/2008 7:23pm) in reply to GRIMYOAF

    Wow, why is everyone so full of hate? I'm sorry for wondering if I should get all my chips in against one of the few guys that can essentially bust me. I guess I shouldn't try to get any honest feedback here, huh? I thought we were here to discuss poker, but I guess most everyone is just here to clown on people for asking questions they think are idiotic.
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