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Flopping 2 pair, OOP, Wo Lead, Rainbow dry flop, M-way, Early, 75 bb. line weigh-in?

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  1. HUSTLEHERO HUSTLEHERO is offline

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    Jun 9th, 2012 (6/9/2012 4:25pm)

    Greetings,
    So I'm trying out playing a bit more of a LAG style.

    1) I reckon I should be flatting pre in this instance to hit the nut flush, or two pair situations.- Tell me if off the bat this is a terrible idea or mathematically incorrect?

    2) On the flop, I thought check raising would be the most profitable line?

    3) The bu v, was unknown but I reckon he would be doing his 4-betting betting with AK, AQ, AJ, KK, QQ,+ Or should i have really put a set in v's range? In hindsight this was such a M-way pot, that I should be 100% putting a made set in V's range, and 3-bet fold? -

    3.B) ALSO Apologies if I'm using 4-betting in this instance incorrectly- I don't want to become one of those fish who use jargon incorrectly, so if someone could clarify if 3-betting and 4-betting ONLY apply to PRE or if the terms can be utilized post as well?

    4) I did my google dillegence and couldn't figure on using poker stove how to calculate it, to try and figure out what the *naked* odds of flopping 2 pair vs a set are and couldn't really find anything. If some awesome being, that knows their maths well, if you could please walk me through how I can come up with the equation or a rough idea bout the thought process? I reckon there is some combinatrics stuff involved (things involving n-1, k ish) so if you could explain it if you were explain it to a 3-year old child that would make my day.

    pokerstars Hand #81624678342: Tournament #576010394, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (20/40) - 2012/06/07 12:24:00 ET
    Table '576010394 133' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: C13Greentumb (2925 in chips)
    Seat 2: airbourne77 (912 in chips)
    Seat 3: pokerjay9 (4750 in chips)
    Seat 4: Ronenon (9798 in chips)
    Seat 5: DOOME72 (5280 in chips)
    Seat 6: HUSTLheR0 (3000 in chips)
    Seat 7: hajen78 (2995 in chips)
    Seat 8: YO-C RULES (5880 in chips)
    Seat 9: poelerjung (3320 in chips)
    poelerjung: posts small blind 20
    C13Greentumb: posts big blind 40
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to HUSTLheR0 [Ad 3d]
    airbourne77: folds
    pokerjay9: folds
    Ronenon: raises 40 to 80
    DOOME72: calls 80
    HUSTLheR0: calls 80
    hajen78: calls 80
    YO-C RULES: calls 80
    poelerjung: folds
    C13Greentumb: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Ac 6d 3h]
    Ronenon: checks
    DOOME72: checks
    HUSTLheR0: checks
    hajen78: bets 360
    YO-C RULES: calls 360
    Ronenon: folds
    DOOME72: folds
    HUSTLheR0: raises 820 to 1180
    hajen78: folds
    YO-C RULES: raises 1740 to 2920
    HUSTLheR0: ???????

    Thanks for your weigh-ins in advance. I really do read every response and take the time to think about things and how I can adjust better.
  2. gimmietheloot gimmietheloot is offline

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    Jun 9th, 2012 (6/9/2012 5:58pm) in reply to HUSTLEHERO

    you played it fine the whole way, i like check raise, once he raises you you get it in all the time. sounds like you are over thinking a pretty simple hand. I assume you lost to a set or something because otherwise you wouldn't be posting this hand, anyways get in if you lose on to the next tournament
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  3. HUSTLEHERO HUSTLEHERO is offline

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    Jun 9th, 2012 (6/9/2012 6:42pm) in reply to gimmietheloot

     
    Originally Posted by gimmietheloot View Post

    you played it fine the whole way, i like check raise, once he raises you you get it in all the time. sounds like you are over thinking a pretty simple hand. I assume you lost to a set or something because otherwise you wouldn't be posting this hand, anyways get in if you lose on to the next tournament


    Hey, Thanks for your reply. Good to know, my general thinking was correct :) . The reason why I'm asking the questions is because I really want a comprehensive understanding of what is going on. Information and understanding obviously are an edge so wan't to really maximize and know the why's in poker, hence my questions. Stagnation is something I try to avoid, so don't want to just do the exact same thing and not know why I'm doing it.
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  4. sdexcid sdexcid is offline

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    Jun 9th, 2012 (6/9/2012 8:38pm) in reply to HUSTLEHERO

    this is an easy ship. He could be doing that with a big ace, this is simply never a fold in my books
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