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Fold QQ here? DNG

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  1. vitobiggs vitobiggs is offline

    Leawood, KS
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    Oct 27th, 2010 (10/27/2010 9:12pm)

    We’re about 200 left in the DNG and ITM. The question is it possible to fold here? In the moment I didn’t think and just smashed my chips in the pot. This is not a bad beat post, I don’t mind running QQ into KK or AA or both for that matter. It’s a part of the game, it goes both ways and evens out in the end.

    Some info: I had doubled Yank about 10 hands before this when I had QQ and he defended his bb with 66, he flopped a set and we got it in. Only 45 hands on him, 29 raise 1st with 6 3 bet.
    Guer only 34 hands with a 21 raise first and 12 3 bet. There is no 4 bet info on either player.

    I go with the standard open. Guer 3 bets and is obv committing his whole stack to this pot, in fact I think it looks super strong to 3 bet there instead of jam. Yank min 4bets from the sb. It looks as though he might be trying to iso guer and get aipf hu with him. At the same time I also think he’s committed to the pot if I shove.

    Ranges? If guer shoves here I think he has a pretty wide range, but with the 3bet maybe we can put him on 1010+ AQ+? And calling a shove with all of his range.
    Yank’s range has to be super tight here, I’m guessing JJ+ and AK…maybe not even JJ.

    If I’m right on guer’s range I have 55% equity if we get heads up…but that isn’t likely with yank in the pot.
    3 way all in I have 35% vs those ranges

    I only have 3800 in the pot when it gets back to me, don’t think I’ve ever folded QQ+ online before. If I would’ve took my time on this decision, do you think this is a rare occasion where we can let this go?

    pokerstars Game #51720607735: Tournament #337010572, $50+$5 USD Hold’em No Limit – Level XIV (800/1600) – 2010/10/26 17:47:12 CT [2010/10/26 18:47:12 ET]
    Table ‘337010572 65’ 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: gueritomeow (23806 in chips)
    Seat 2: rummakaa (40033 in chips)
    Seat 3: KKcrasherAA (50896 in chips)
    Seat 4: Yankees31 (48519 in chips)
    Seat 5: Firaldo87 (45401 in chips)
    Seat 6: mprice024 (68618 in chips)
    Seat 7: kkrystiane (22236 in chips)
    Seat 8: vitobiggs (66364 in chips)
    Seat 9: l3alance (31523 in chips)
    gueritomeow: posts the ante 150
    rummakaa: posts the ante 150
    KKcrasherAA: posts the ante 150
    Yankees31: posts the ante 150
    Firaldo87: posts the ante 150
    mprice024: posts the ante 150
    kkrystiane: posts the ante 150
    vitobiggs: posts the ante 150
    l3alance: posts the ante 150
    Yankees31: posts small blind 800
    Firaldo87: posts big blind 1600
    HOLE CARDS *
    Dealt to vitobiggs [Qs Qc]
    mprice024: folds
    kkrystiane: folds
    vitobiggs: raises 2200 to 3800
    l3alance: folds
    gueritomeow: raises 5800 to 9600
    rummakaa: folds
    KKcrasherAA: folds
    Yankees31: raises 5800 to 15400
    Firaldo87: folds
    vitobiggs: raises 50814 to 66214 and is all-in
    gueritomeow: calls 14056 and is all-in
    Yankees31: calls 32969 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (17845) returned to vitobiggs
    FLOP * [Ah 7c Jd]
    TURN * [Ah 7c Jd] [8d]
    RIVER * [Ah 7c Jd 8d] [Qh]
    SHOW DOWN *
    Yankees31: shows [Ad Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
    vitobiggs: shows [Qs Qc] (three of a kind, Queens)
    Yankees31 collected 49426 from side pot
    gueritomeow: shows [Ks Kh] (a pair of Kings)
    Yankees31 collected 73918 from main pot
    gueritomeow finished the tournament in 148th place and received $144.56.
    SUMMARY *
    Total pot 123344 Main pot 73918. Side pot 49426. | Rake 0
    Board [Ah 7c Jd 8d Qh]
    Seat 1: gueritomeow showed [Ks Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
    Seat 2: rummakaa folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
    Seat 3: KKcrasherAA (button) folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
    Seat 4: Yankees31 (small blind) showed [Ad Ac] and won (123344) with three of a kind, Aces
    Seat 5: Firaldo87 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: mprice024 folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
    Seat 7: kkrystiane folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
    Seat 8: vitobiggs showed [Qs Qc] and lost with three of a kind, Queens
    Seat 9: l3alance folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
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  2. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Oct 27th, 2010 (10/27/2010 11:52pm) in reply to vitobiggs

    Yankees31 is a strong, generally solid player. If he's making a min 4-bet with anything other than KK or AA, I'd be stunned.
     
  3. Smiler90 Smiler90 is offline

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    Oct 28th, 2010 (10/28/2010 12:15am) in reply to grapsfan

    Looks like a fold to me, both the small 3bet from 'gueritomeow' and the min 4bet seems incredibly strong.
  4. McBain74 McBain74 is offline

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    Oct 28th, 2010 (10/28/2010 3:51pm) in reply to Smiler90

    I'd be cautious about yanks min 4bet, looks more like he wants you to come along into the pot as well. I mean its easy to answer when you know what the outcome is but it is a gross spot to be in. If you did fold you still have 39bb's left to work with. I fold as well.....but I'm a nit.
     
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