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Folding AA in a satellite

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  1. driftdc5 driftdc5 is offline

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    Dec 15th, 2008 (12/15/2008 3:44am)

    This is one of the most popular threads on this site imo. Are you supposed to fold AA in satellites? When? blah blah blah. Well yeah, the answer is yes, if the risk outweighs the reward. Here is a HH from tonights PCA satellite, 13 left, 12 get the $14,300 package. LittleZcam is currently 6th or 7th in chips. Pretty much can fold to a package. Short stack has 28K at the other table, 3/6 blinds.

    pokerstars Game #22931579893: Tournament #125007824, $615+$35 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIX (3000/6000) - 2008/12/15 1:01:56 ET
    Table '125007824 12' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: crazyjanie (98622 in chips)
    Seat 2: driftdc5 (57007 in chips)
    Seat 3: ASPoker8 (46864 in chips)
    Seat 6: KidPokerJD (268093 in chips)
    Seat 7: LittleZcam (76966 in chips)
    Seat 9: MikeMaverick (183335 in chips)
    crazyjanie: posts the ante 600
    driftdc5: posts the ante 600
    ASPoker8: posts the ante 600
    KidPokerJD: posts the ante 600
    LittleZcam: posts the ante 600
    MikeMaverick: posts the ante 600
    MikeMaverick: posts small blind 3000
    crazyjanie: posts big blind 6000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to driftdc5 [8s Kc]
    driftdc5: folds
    ASPoker8: folds
    KidPokerJD: raises 60000 to 66000
    LittleZcam: raises 10366 to 76366 and is all-in
    MikeMaverick: folds
    crazyjanie: folds
    KidPokerJD: calls 10366
    *** FLOP *** [7s 5c 9s]
    *** TURN *** [7s 5c 9s] [4h]
    *** RIVER *** [7s 5c 9s 4h] [2d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    KidPokerJD: shows [7c 7h] (three of a kind, Sevens)
    LittleZcam: shows [As Ac] (a pair of Aces)
    KidPokerJD collected 165332 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 165332 | Rake 0
    Board [7s 5c 9s 4h 2d]
    Seat 1: crazyjanie (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 2: driftdc5 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: ASPoker8 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: KidPokerJD showed [7c 7h] and won (165332) with three of a kind, Sevens
    Seat 7: LittleZcam (button) showed [As Ac] and lost with a pair of Aces
    Seat 9: MikeMaverick (small blind) folded before Flop
     
  2. goofy2485 goofy2485 is offline This thread sucks.

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    Dec 15th, 2008 (12/15/2008 3:58am) in reply to driftdc5

    That would be a complete autofold I'd have closed the browser when it go down to 14
  3. Javy28 Javy28 is offline

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    Dec 15th, 2008 (12/15/2008 4:22am) in reply to goofy2485

    i dont know if its as easy as a fold as u think. if shorty doubles he has about 60k and the guy w AA doesnt have a huge stack either. i would fold this if the guy had 3 blinds or less probably.
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    Dec 15th, 2008 (12/15/2008 4:28am) in reply to Javy28

     
    Originally Posted by Javy28 View Post

    i dont know if its as easy as a fold as u think. if shorty doubles he has about 60k and the guy w AA doesnt have a huge stack either. i would fold this if the guy had 3 blinds or less probably.

    Theres another table. He has 6 short stacks behind him.
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    Dec 15th, 2008 (12/15/2008 4:49am) in reply to goofy2485

     
    Originally Posted by goofy2485 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Javy28 View Post

    i dont know if its as easy as a fold as u think. if shorty doubles he has about 60k and the guy w AA doesnt have a huge stack either. i would fold this if the guy had 3 blinds or less probably.

    Theres another table. He has 6 short stacks behind him.

    This ldo, and even with that aside, he should fold due to the possibility of someone else making a mistake.
     
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    Dec 15th, 2008 (12/15/2008 7:32am) in reply to driftdc5

    With 6 short stacks behind you, this is as close to an autofold as you can get. You really can't make a solid argument here for making the call. You have 2 short stacks at your table, so even if kid is doing this every hand, he's putting greater pressure on the shorter stacks. Your going to fold to a win here what 95% of the time, 98% of the time doing absolutely nothing? Even more? Why take a 90-10 spot? (and 80/20 if he has a pocket pair).

    Next, even if you flipped the hand, you are going to get called. I just don't understand plays like this, just a brain fart move.
  7. LXAchopper602 LXAchopper602 is offline

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    Dec 15th, 2008 (12/15/2008 7:36am) in reply to lordxixor101

    I was the 28k stack at other table and let me tell u how high I jumped when that guy pinked off a 7! So sick weeeeeeee atlantis!!!
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    Dec 15th, 2008 (12/15/2008 7:39am) in reply to LXAchopper602

    Also MikeMAverick and Crazyjanie both made terrible folds. I dont care what they had.
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    Dec 15th, 2008 (12/15/2008 8:22am) in reply to goofy2485

     
    Originally Posted by goofy2485 View Post

    Also MikeMAverick and Crazyjanie both made terrible folds. I dont care what they had.

    ^ huh? I'm going to have to disagree with this.
     
  10. goofy2485 goofy2485 is offline This thread sucks.

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    Dec 15th, 2008 (12/15/2008 8:27am) in reply to Randomizer

     
    Originally Posted by Randomizer View Post

     
    Originally Posted by goofy2485 View Post


    Also MikeMAverick and Crazyjanie both made terrible folds. I dont care what they had.

    ^ huh? I'm going to have to disagree with this.

    Odds that AA holds vs. 3 other hands?
    Pokerstove it.
    U KO him, u win.
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    Dec 15th, 2008 (12/15/2008 1:56pm) in reply to driftdc5

    obvious brag post imo.
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    Dec 15th, 2008 (12/15/2008 2:36pm) in reply to goofy2485

     
    Originally Posted by goofy2485 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Randomizer View Post

     
    Originally Posted by goofy2485 View Post


    Also MikeMAverick and Crazyjanie both made terrible folds. I dont care what they had.

    ^ huh? I'm going to have to disagree with this.

    Odds that AA holds vs. 3 other hands?
    Pokerstove it.
    U KO him, u win.

    WOW
     
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    Dec 15th, 2008 (12/15/2008 2:40pm) in reply to B_O_K_E

     
    Originally Posted by B_O_K_E View Post

     
    Originally Posted by goofy2485 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Randomizer View Post


     
    Originally Posted by goofy2485 View Post


    Also MikeMAverick and Crazyjanie both made terrible folds. I dont care what they had.

    ^ huh? I'm going to have to disagree with this.

    Odds that AA holds vs. 3 other hands?
    Pokerstove it.
    U KO him, u win.

    WOW

    I am curious...are you really serious goofy?
     
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    Dec 15th, 2008 (12/15/2008 3:44pm) in reply to goofy2485

     
    Originally Posted by goofy2485 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Randomizer View Post

     
    Originally Posted by goofy2485 View Post


    Also MikeMAverick and Crazyjanie both made terrible folds. I dont care what they had.

    ^ huh? I'm going to have to disagree with this.

    Odds that AA holds vs. 3 other hands?
    Pokerstove it.
    U KO him, u win.

    Dumbest thing I've ever heard. Those guys don't need to risk anything at all, and if AA does hold, they're in pretty shitty shape, when they simply don't need to be.
     
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